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Topic: 1841 & 1871 census lookups please (Read 249 times)
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hwlambert
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Can someone please help with lookups for the following family who would have been in Stotfold.
In 1841
Lambert, James, born Stowmarket (1811), brickmaker
Lambert, Mary (she died in 1841 so may not be here)
Lambert, James Halls, born Beds 1834
Lambert, Elizabeth born Beds 1833
Lambert, Lucy born Beds 1836
1871
Lambert, James, born Stowmarket, brickmaker
Lambert, Alfred, son, born Beds 1849, brickmaker
Thanks.
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bedfordshire boy
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1871 RG10/1552 folio 121A
Brickkiln Cottages, Ray Field, Stotfold
James Lambert head widower 60 Brickmaker employing 9 men 3 boys b Stowmarket
Alfred Lambert son unmarr 22 Brickmaker b Stotfold
Naomi Denton servant unmarr 36 Housekeeper & domestic servant b Wooton Beds
1841 in a bit
Regards
David
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bedfordshire boy
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I couldn't see them in Stotfold in 1841, but I wonder if they had arrived there by then? Your details differ from the 1851 census
HO107/1753 folio 358B
Green End Stotfold
James Lambert head marr 40 Master brickmaker employing 8?men & 4 boys b Stowmarket
Sarah Lambert wife 41 b Shefford Beds
James Lambert son 16 Brickmakers ap born Northants Weston Favell
Lucy Lambert dau 15 born Northants Weston Favell
Alfred Lambert son 2 b Stotfold
There's no burial of a Mary Lambert in Beds in 1841 on the NBI so possibly they were still in Northants? I see though that there's a marriage of a James Lambert to Sarah Sheffield in June 1841 in Ampthill, so on the offchance that that is him I'll have a look at Ampthill
Nice to get one right sometimes!
HO107/006-03 folio 9A
Woburn St South Side, Ampthill
James Lambert 27 Butcher
MaryAnn Lambert 20
James Halls Lambert 6
Lucy Ann Lambert 4
Emma Susan Lambert 2
All born in county
And just in case you're interested
HO107/006-01 folio 10A
Dunstable St Ampthill
Samuel Sheffield 50 Shoe maker Not born in county#
Sarah Sheffield 30 Born in county
Elizabeth Sheffield 20 Born in county
Martha Sheffield 16 Born in county
Henry Sheffield 10 Born in county
I don't quite understand the entries as MaryAnn seems too young to have been the mother of James, unless the enumerator was inconsistent and rounded down her age to the nearest 5 below as he was instructed to do, and she was actually 24. But equally it seems a whirlwind romance if Mary was still alive on 7 June 1841, had died and was buried and James married Sarah Sheffield on 28 June 1841!
Something doesn't stack up here - why for example is there no burial in Ampthilll on the NBI, which is covered up to 1852?
Over to you!
Regards
David
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hwlambert
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Thanks so much for that David. That should keep me going for some time.
There was supposed to be a sister Mary to James Halls as she came out to NZ to be with him but I cant find her anywhere. His father had remarried by 1851 and James left not long after for Australia. Seems strange that father James went from Butcher to Brickmaker but the James Halls is correct. Oh well, it gives me lots to go on with.
Thanks for your efforts.
Heather
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bedfordshire boy
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Is it possible that MaryAnn was James Lambert senior's sister rather than his wife? Northants is not well covered on either the IGI or the NBI, so she may have died in Northants some time between 1838 and 1841, making the marriage to Sarah Sheffield more feasible. But I can't see a death on FreeBMD either, although there is a Mary Lambert death in Bedford registration district in the first quarter 1841.
Regards
David
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hwlambert
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Cant find a sister for James, only a brother Isaac, but you never know. Will go back through and recheck my info.
James Halls mother was Mary Franklin and she married in Bedford and I know she had died before son James left for Australia.
James Halls birth is listed in the IGI 3 times. Once in Bedford, once in Stoke and once in Stoke upon Trent but the 1861 census says Northhampton. Very confusing.
I will keep at it, thanks.
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bedfordshire boy
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The three Stoke entries on the IGI are all member submissions which I tend to ignore as most are very unreliable. The Bedford birth is a controlled extract taken from the church records so is reliable. But as it's a non-conformist church just the birth is recorded, and it doesn't say where it took place, so it may well have been in Northants which is what the censuses give. People used to travel quite long distances to get to the non-conformist church of their choice.
If Mary Franklin was from Bedford it's possible that the March 1841 death on FreeBMD is her
Regards
David
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hwlambert
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Thanks so much.
In an article he wrote in NZ he said he was born in Bottoms Booth wherever that is but there seems to be inconsistencies in his writings too.
Thanks for the non-confirmist church information. I will keep looking. Cheers.
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hwlambert
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Sorry, think that should be Buttocks Booth. Cant find the reference at present.
Cheers.
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RAH1234
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Buttocks Booth is now called Boothville. Can't imagine why the name was changed..
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