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annaandchester
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« on: Wednesday 19 April 06 16:27 BST (UK) »

I recently went to Tullie House in Carlisle and I was told that the Simpsons of Westmorland were a Reiver family. Does anyone know how to go about researching this?

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Re: Reivers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 18:22 BST (UK) »

If you put Reivers into Google you will come up with lots of sites giving information on the subject
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Re: Reivers
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 23:27 BST (UK) »

My family were Rievers and there are loads of books on the subject as well at Amazon.com as well

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Re: Reivers
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 April 06 01:48 BST (UK) »

Call out the Hot Trod, it seems like someone's taking their Genealogy serious  Grin Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin
Reivers are riding again
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 July 06 19:16 BST (UK) »

You started the right way.  See the display first, then check it out.  I did it the other way, so found the display told me nothing I didn't already know.

I started on the Internet and found a copious amount of information.  I have a ROBSON - also a reiver name - who was born in Newcastleton.  I hope you also went to the Cursing Stone in Carlisle.  It's on the walk from the castle to the museum.  The walk is made up of stones listing the names of reiver families -- there are several of each.  My friend, who showed me around, took pictures of ROBSON, MILBURN, and the stone.  My camera couldn't handle the dark.  She had a digital.  Another great place to go is the castle Records Office.  I spent three days there.

George MacDonald Fraser wrote the ultimate tome called The Steel Bonnets.  It is more than a book; that's why I call it a tome; it's also big and heavy.  I got my copy from the library, although it took awhile as they had to request it from a university south of me.  The information was not easy reading, but it verified all the info I'd found on the internet, plus.   

All of the resources were helpful to understanding the time period, the people, and their lifestyle.  But the best was when another friend I met in Newcastleton took me for a drive aroud the countryside.  He had his wife and dog with him and we were fortunate to have a gorgeous day. In fact, it was the only such day on my week in Scotland.  We drove through the mountains (he called them hills) and dales.  Even crossed the border between Scotland and England.  I was surprised how close they were.  Although there was a lot of activity in the Northumberland area, Carlisle is only eight miles from Gretna Green.  And as you go toward Brampton, the border is even closer.  At Lanercost Priory, you can see the border from the church yard.

I've put many of my photos on a yahoo site.  After you've done your research, if you're interested, write me a personal message and I'll give you the address.  I found the all the information fascinating.  But the trip to Cumberland and Scotland was the best. I have many special memories, but one of the best parts was the many friends I made who shared their countries with me.    RedFox


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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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Re: Reivers
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 July 06 08:11 BST (UK) »

Frightening!  I don't have many names in my tree so far, but five of them are listed on that Reiver link... hm...

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Simpson, Morland, Westmorland
Watson, Renwick Cul
Thompson, Stainton
Renwick, Whitehaven & Alston
Kirkbride, Whitehaven
Conaway, Whitehaven & Co Down
Ostle, Cul
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Re: Reivers
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 July 06 08:38 BST (UK) »

Hi, Jalkatz, sounds like you may have just started.  Which is good.  Finding all those families who were reivers will be helpful in your research.  The Steel Bonnets will definitely be helpful.  You may find that some of the families were on opposite sides - some of the feuds were settled by intermarriage, so don't be surprised.   This might also pinpoint your research along the Borders. 

By all means, be sure to delve into as much research as possible to familiarize yourself with everything: the time period, "lingo", various families, customs.

Have fun.  RedFox
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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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Re: Reivers
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 July 06 12:10 BST (UK) »

Hi RedFox, thanks for the encouragement and, yes, just a few months into researching.  Had to laugh though, as I thought I would find predominantly Quaker ancesters.  I'm glad I saw the post now as I'm planning to go up to Cumbria in the next week - but I have a way to go, yet, before I get to the relevant time-period.  lol - we don't know what we're admitting to when we advertise our family names, do we?  Lips Sealed  Best wishes,  Jackie
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Simpson, Morland, Westmorland
Watson, Renwick Cul
Thompson, Stainton
Renwick, Whitehaven & Alston
Kirkbride, Whitehaven
Conaway, Whitehaven & Co Down
Ostle, Cul
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 July 06 18:14 BST (UK) »

Oh, I do envy you.  I love Carlisle and Cumbria, especially the north area.  There are some good records on the Quakers.  Yes, they are a far different set of people from the reivers, but came about hundreds of years later, so your research in that area should be easier.

Don't know what the Records Office at the Castle in Carlisle might have on the religion; I think much of it would be in church records.  They may have some and/or be able to point you in the right direction.  I haven't done any research on the Quakers, only what I've come across in my reading.

I spent 11 days in Carlisle, including Aspatria, Wigton, Penrith, Talkin, and Lancaster Priory.  Even took the train to Barrow-in-Furness.  Also spent a week in Scotland, mostly in or near the Border area.  And am very anxious to return.  Unfortunately, it's a very long plane ride away, not just a drive. 

Yes, our past can frequently surprise us.  Hopefully, it is always good.  I know things I always thought were true, weren't.  Have also found some interesting things.  Had more than one whose parentage I can't trace.  Also had a few married by special license.  As well as siblings' children who were absorbed into the family, probably after the death of the single parent.  Have fun.   RedFox
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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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