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Terie
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Burns,Hawick.
« on: Tuesday 13 March 07 02:39 UTC (UK) »

Researching the surname Burns in Hawick,
William Burns son of Alexander Burns and Agnes Jeffrey,married Agnes Crawford in 1836 at Lilliesleaf and had a tailors business at 30 High St,Hawick,
family living in Hawick from 1841 onward,
children,
Agnes born 1837 married Thomas Robison,1864.
Alexander born 1838,
James born 1841.
Helen born 1845 married John Mackenzie,1863.
Catherine Bunyan Burns born 1846 died 1919.
John  born 1849.
Margaret born 1851 married Alexander Glen,1883.
William born 1853,
Thomas born 1855 married Jane Bruce,1893,
Walter born 1857,married Isabella Hendry Drummond,1881.
Robert born 1860,married Margaret Clark Ker,1884.
George born 1863,died infancy.
Georgina Jeffrey Burns born 1865.

William Burns died 1887 age 73yrs,
Agnes Burns,ms Crawford died 1891 age 71yrs.
Both at 30 High St,Hawick

I have census entries,
Does anyone have a Burns from Hawick in their family tree?

Amanda.
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gilbert scott
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 15:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi i have a burns born minto is that the same place?

gilbert
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 March 07 20:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gilbert,

Minto is just a few miles from Hawick,

Walter and Isabella Burns lived at Denholm around 1900 which is very close to Minto,

what were the names you have?

Amanda.
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 March 07 00:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Amanda william burn dr, rev, of minto till he died 9 dec 1826 & is buried next to the golf couse in the old grave yard, He was born 1745 in northumberland & married margaret ogle in edinburgh on 3 june 1771 his family were ann 1772 all born minto george piercy 1773 margaret 1775 isabella 1776 anna maria 1778 john 1781 robert 1783. Anna maria married my archibald elliot about? there first child was born 1806 in jedburgh.

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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 March 07 00:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Amanda,
Just browsing, your query caught my eye.....guess what Huh?
I believe Alexander and Agnes had another son John,d.1899 age 84. John was married to a Janet Rae. Their son Alexander married Margaret Bell in 1872. They had a son,Thomas Bell Burns in 1880. Thomas married Agnes Maxwell in 1905 and my grandfather Alexander was born in March 1907. I have loads of info, as well as census and certificates.
Regards Hawickborn
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 March 07 01:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi There,

Yes you're correct, Alexander and Agnes Burns had a son John married to Janet Rae, after Janet died John remarried, on the 22nd May 1866 at Victoria Rd,Wilton, to Betsy Swanston,father George Swanston,mother Grace Swanston,ms Burns,both dec.
according to the marriage cert, John Burns and Betsy Swanston were cousins, so at this point I believe Grace Burns and Alexander Burns were siblings, I have been in touch with someone who has researched the Swanston family but unfortunately Grace died before 1855 and there are no records for her.
I have John Burns death as 1889 age 84yrs,not 1899
I have John and Janet Burns living at Ancrum in 1841 and at Wilton in 1851.
There is a Will available for John Burns died 1889,do you have that? from Scotlands People,
Will send you a PM.

Amanda.
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 March 09 18:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi folks

Forgive me for cutting in here, but, I think that your John Burns who I have down as being born 16th Oct 1806, (lilliesleaf) who married Janet Rea bn 4th Jan 1809 (Wilton), was my 3rd Great Grandfather

By my research John and Janet also had a Agnes born 1836 (Lilliesleaf)as well as an Alexander 1841, a Margaret 1839 and a Christian ?

Agnes went on to marry Thomas Rutherford

Let me know if this fits  I think it might

Andrew
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Terie
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 15:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Andrew,

thanks for your reply,

yes I have Agnes Burns age 5yrs  living with John and Janet near Ancrum in 1841, siblings Christian,Margaret and Alexander,

do you have the census entries for Alexander and Nancy/Agnes Burns, in 1841 at Shankendshiels,Cavers, and 1851 at Sunnyside,Cavers?
in the 1851 entry there is a Margaret age 6yrs,grandau,born Wilton,any idea who this is?


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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 17:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Andrew and Sandra, quick follow up,

I have Alexander Burns died at Whitacres,Cavers June 22nd 1862 age 84yrs,
father John Burns,shepherd,
mother? ms Brown,unable to read her first name,
informant Alexander Burns,son,

his wife Agnes Burns ms Jeffrey died 1867 age 83yrs Cavers Parish, haven't looked at that certificate.

still looking for 2 sons of William and Agnes Burns, John born 1849 and William born 1853,

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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 02:26 UTC (UK) »

I have now found John Burns born 1849 Hawick living in  Dunfermline in 1881,a grocer and wine merchant,
he married Catherine Blackwood Couper in 1873 and had at least one son William born approx 1887,
will post on Fife board,

Amanda.
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 March 09 20:13 UTC (UK) »

Terie

I've found a magaret that possibly may be who your looking for

In a grave at Ancrum, see attached pic

It says died aged 73, 13 Oct 1915 he was married to Hugh Harvey and someone called Nellie have a look and see

Andrew


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Terie
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 00:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Andrew,

according to the 1881 census, Hugh Harvey was the stationmaster at Belses close to Ancrum,
his wife  Margaret Burns gave her birthplace as Innerleithen,

Amanda.
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05 April 09 20:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi-I have just come across your forum,and I am a Burns from Hawick(b.1935) being the son of Thomas Bell(b.1907)who was the middle child of nine of Alexander(1879) & Lizzie(Borthwick).He was the grandson of John(1806)who was the son of Alexander(1778) and the grandson of John & Peggy(brown)-no dates.
  My informant has named the eldest child of John & Janet as Christina(1834-1892)who married Alex Richardson.
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Re: Burns,Hawick.
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 April 09 22:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mondeo

Welcome to Rootschat

My connection to the Burns is via Agnes Burns, who is my gggrandmother and if I am correct your Christina could be her sister the 'Christian' that myself and 'Terie' have down as, who I have no records of, other than a 1841 census entry, and that gives very little information, such as birth place

I don't know if 'terie' has as she is more up on the Burns than I am, I have been concentrating on the Rutherford side and getting nowhere, and just really getting into Burns's and Rea's.  The way I see it is if Agnes is the younger sister of Christian/Christina then she would be the Sister in Law of Thomas Rutherford (blacksmith)  of Bonchester Bridge

Please don't tell me she is buried at Wilton and I after two round trips to Hawick and two days searching (got a speeding ticket) I have somehow missed her Grin Roll Eyes

I hope it is as this would go back to the mid 1700's

AR

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