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AmandaJ
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Alexander Smith
« on: Friday 28 April 06 19:27 UTC (UK) »

I am seeking to find parents and siblings of an Alexander Smith I believe that he was born Leslie, Fife on the 11th Sept 1811.

He enlisted in the army on the 20 March 1827 at somewhere in Fife (as I can't read the piece of paper well, writing is old and faded)

He was in the 26th Cameroonians on foot.

He married a Hannah or Henrietta Allen (father George Allen) at Fort William Calcutta. They had as far as I know four children Thomas, Susannah, Alexander and Isabella.
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Re: Alexander Smith
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 April 06 20:28 UTC (UK) »

there are two register entries for Leslie Fife for an Alexander Smith:


20/03/1808

Alexander Smith
Father: William Smith
Mother: Euphens Malcom
Parish: Leslie, Fife
Gros Reference Number 444/00 0002



16/07/1811

Alexander Smith
Father: Thomas Smith
Mother: Isobel Oswald
Parish: Leslie, Fife
Gros Reference Number 444/00 0002



29/05/1814

Betty Smith
Father Thomas Smith
Mother Isobel Oswald
Parish of Leslie Fife,

GROS reference number 444/00 002



03/12/1809

Isabella Smith
Father Thomas Smith
Mother Isobel Oswald
Parish of Leslie Fife,

GROS reference number 444/00 002


It could very well be the Isobel and Thomas as parents, since you already had the 1811 Birthdate and also the name of his children.

Hope that you find that this has helped

Best wishes

Mo

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Re: Alexander Smith
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 April 06 06:57 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much Smiley
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Re: Alexander Smith
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 May 06 16:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi Amanda
Have you gleaned Alexander's birthdate of the document you have? If so & if it's hard to read, are you able to scan that piece with the birth-date on it - perhaps someone may come up with a different conclusion for date?

Assuming the children you have listed are in descending order of birth - I agree with Moscan that, Thomas and Isabella are the most likely parents (1st Son, 2nd daughter). There could also be a son George missing (2nd son,  born before should-be-3rd-position-Alexander).

There may be a 3rd daughter at least missing, born  after Isabella and named after the mother Henrietta or Hannah - but I guess that depends on whether there was any more born at all after Isabella.

These ideas are  based on tradtitional Scots naming patterns, which were extensively and often rigorously, applied though naturally not set in stone, and exceptions or departures always occur!

Have you any indication of  birthdate of Henrietta/Hannah?  Is it possible her parents may be George ALLEN and Susannah NEILSON who had a daughter Henrietta born 1820 in Dumfries (IGI)?  How  does the "Hannah or Henrietta" difference arise?

When, out of interest was their son Alexander born? There is an Alexander George SMITH born in Ireland 1842 and or 1845 (IGI extracted record, both same name, place and batch nr) to parents Alexander SMITH and Henrietta ALLEN.

The 26 Cameronians were in Ireland in 1845 (and they were in India 1828 to 1840 according to website link below). I'm thinking, if they had a son named George earlier who died, it would not be uncommon to name the next born son the same name. But in their case, perhaps they named the 3rd born son Alexander after the father as the 3rd son normally would be, but added a middle name George for the earlier 2nd born George who had died.....?
http://www.regiments.org/deploy/uk/reg-inf/026-1.htm

Have you checked Scotlands People for the deaths of this couple? Do they appear on any Scottish Census? Do their children? If a Death or marriage occured in Scotland after 1855, the record should provide the names of both the parents of the deceased, and of both bride & groom.

Just some ideas!
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AMBLY
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Re: Alexander Smith
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 October 06 20:18 UTC (UK) »

I believe the Alexander George Smith to be the child born to Alexander Smith and Henrietta Allen in 1845 Belfast Ireland I also understand he died the same year.

The difference between Hannah and Henrietta is this I have an original document of a marriage cert from 1837, it is written on writing paper and was in 1912 stuck onto a piece of newspare to preseve it I suppose as it otherwise would have fallen to bits. On this I have the info of Hannah Allen daughter of George Allen. By a recent contact I was sent a copy of this document typed which was purchased in 2005. On here it agrees with the original document and states Hannah.

Hannah who married Color Serjent Alexander Smith, well this must be a copy of the document I have as it states the same details in every way possible.

On the hand written paper I have with the details of Alexander's life from where he was born to where he signed up to whom he married and his children, which is old and faded. It states Henrietta Allen daughter of George Allen, which corresponds with the birth details of Alexander george Smith who is also mentioned on this paper along with Susannah Smith who my husband descends from and Thomas Smith who a cousin descends from, This paper also states that Henrietta Allen Smith died in what looks to be New York, I have looked in US record but have had no luck so far. This paper is also where it states that George Allen was from Dumfries. I know that the paper might not be 100% correct.

The forth child Isabella had the middle name of Oswald so the information which was given to me above seems correct.

I am still waiting for information from the national archives with regard to Alexander's career in the army.
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