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deb39
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Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me, i have come to a standstill in my search. I have 2 names Florance jane scaffold and William Scaffold husband and wife both of whom appear on the 1901 cencus. I have found Florance's maiden name was Thompson and she was born in Grosmont, herefordshire in 1880, so she should appear on both the 1881 and 1891 cencus's but i cannot find her on either so am unable to trace the rest of her family, i have also checked the welsh cencus as Grosmont is on the border but still no sign.
William scaffold was born in woolhope Herefordshire in 1842 and is on the 1851 cencus but then disappears from the next 4 cencus's as do most of his family, not appearing again until the 1901 cencus. I am at a complete standstill and don't know where to go from here. I would be most grateful if anyone could give me some advice as to what/where to look next.
From a very baffled Debbie
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RosieJ
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Hi Debbie
I've found William on the 1871 - spelled Scafold (RG10/2693 folio 22 page 3).
Searching name variations or using the wild card sometimes helps. 
Best wishes
Rowena
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Daisypetal
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Hi Debbie,
Welcome to RootsChat 
Is it possible that we are looking for two different Williams, when I looked at the 1901 census he's transcribed as born 1862 and it does look like 39 on the image when you compare it other 5s on the page 
If you got the marriage certificate it may give you their ages and should name their fathers.
Rowena is right about name variations, and, oh my there are alot of them for SCAFFOLD  , but I will have a look for you (also for Florence)
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Puffcat
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They were married in Ocle Pychard in 1899
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Looked for Florence til I was cross-eyed last night!
EBN: does the marriage give any details at all?
There was a family in (I think) Lincolnshire in 1891 that looked like your pair, but they said they were born locally and were already living together as SCAFFOLD, so I think they can be discounted.
kind regards, Arranroots
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Daisypetal
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Hi Debbie,
The only William SCAFFOLD b. 1842 I could see in the 1851 census is,
HO107/1975 f.454 p.18 Woolhope
Drury Lane No.2
William SCAFFOLD Head 43 Carpenter A???
Hannah Wife 35
Susan Daur 13 At home
Catherine Daur 11 scholar at school
William Son 9 " "
John Son 7 " "
Ann Daur 5
James Son 2
George Son m8
All born Woolhope except James born Fawnhope.
I can find this family in 1841 & 1861 written as CAFFELL/CAFFEL so maybe their name wasn't SCAFFOLD. I think I can also see this William b.1842 in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census as CAFFELL married and living in Ashperton.
Let me know if you want any of these details.
Also I have looked on the GRO index for Florence and William,
I can't see a Florence Jane THOMPSON/THOMSON b.1879-1881 except a THOMSON Florence Jane De B. born Dec Q 1881 Southampton, maybe she was illegitimate and took her step-fathers name later?
The only William I can see b.1861-1863 is a William SCAFFULL Sep Q 1862 Hereford v.6a p.430, he could be a possibility
Regards
Daisy
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The details, ages, fathers, addresses will be on the Marriage Certificate.
You can get this from
Hereford Register Office
County Buildings
Bath Street
Hereford HR1 2HQ
£7 .
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William CAFFULL married Hannah HARRIS at Woolhope in Sept 1837
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On the 1881 Census there are 4 William Caffulls
William Caffell b 1843 carpenter b Woolhope now living Ashperton
Wife Susan born Ashperton , 4 children bwtween 3 and 9 born in Birmingham and a baby of 1 born Ashperton
William his son aged 5
William Caffull b 1862 Ag LAb b Mordiford, living in Mordiford as a lodger.
William Caffell b 1811 Checkley, Ag Lab, now living Fownhope
wife Susan aged 68 b Mordiford,
and daughter Ann aged 19 b Fownhope, general servant
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This could be the one Daisy petal looked at b 1862...
c7Sep 1862 at Mordiford Hereford
William son of John & Jane.
Found on I.G.I
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Hi,
I can see a William b.1862 Mordiford in 1891 married to Louisa living in Mordiford, and in 1901 still with Louisa and family but in Tarrington. (transcribed as POFFERLL but reads as Caffull).
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Puffcat
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We have William Caffull a carpenter born 1842/3
who is surely the son of William on the 1851 Census also a carpenter, following into the family trade ?
Is this is the William who married Florence in 1899 at Ocle Pychard then he was 57 and she was 19..... ! 
Are we looking at a second marriage here ?
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Daisypetal
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I think it is a different William  , I can see William CAFFELL b.1842/3 Woolhope on the 1881/1891 & 1901 census married to a Susan living in Ashperton.
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Then is it William the Ag Lab born in 1862 who married Florence ?
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deb39
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Hi again,
Thanks to you all for your help in trying to solve my mystery, its given me a few leads to go on. It is my partners side of the family we are tracing ( my side has been relatively easy ) but i enjoy a good mystery and am determined to crack it!
Today we have been out looking round church yards for graves, we went to Grosmont, Madley, Woolhope, and Mordiford but found none of the names we have so far found!! another blank!!
We have also managed to contact a family member (about the last remaining one who could possibly give us information) He hasn't been able to help that much, but did say that he's sure William and Florence did get married at Ocle Pychard and that he is sure there were relatives in that area ( Bromyard/ withington). So at least i know know that Florence on the 1901 cencus is the right one ( i was beginning to wonder). He has tried to delve into the family history all be it half heartedly, and found it a right tangled webb so gave up, and says older family members he asked in the past ( now all gone) we reluctant to talk about the past, I'm intrigued to know why. I'm going to try and get hold of Florence and Williams marriage certificate, does anyone know if the GRO ref no would be the district name/volume and page ie Bromyard 6a 1135 as its cheaper with the GRO no.
Once again thanks to you all, i am so grateful and if anyone manages to find anything else i will keep checking on here and will let you know how my search progresses
Debbie
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