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david_81
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Chris
My mother recently died. Her birth certificate shows she was born April 22 1916 at The Curragh Camp. Her father was Robin Roodhouse a Sergeant Major in the 8th Kings Royal Irish Hussars.
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Duncanjack
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My g.g.grandfather, William James Kirby a Fencing Sgt in the 19th Hussars was at Curragh from 1877 probably till 1880. Army record clear as to when he went not so clear for how long.
Incidentally anyone with information concerning 19th Hussars from 1862 - 1880 I would appreciate. finding it difficult to obtain by "googling".
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Christopher
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Hi Duncanjack,
Welcome to RootsChat.
See if you can borrow a copy of Con Costello's book "A Most Delightful Station: The British Army on the Curragh of Kildare, Ireland, 1855-1922" It was published by Dufour Editions in 1997. It may not mention specific soldiers but should give an idea of their duties and life at the Curragh.
Christopher
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Duncanjack
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Thank you for replying, I have now acquired a copy of that very book.
Jackie
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Ann Kerr
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Hi Christopher
Just read your post today. My G-Grandfather, Alexander William Craig was born at Curragh Camp July 17th., 1870. His father was Thomas H. Craig, Mother Sarah Munroe Craig. Thomas and Sarah had 3 children, Sarah Born 1868 in Gunhill, Barbados, West Indies, Alexander Born 1870, Curragh Camp and Fannie Born Westville, Nova Scotia, Canada. Would there be any records at Curragh Camp stating where or when Thomas Craig was born and who his parents were. Thomas is listed as Sgt. 2/16 Regt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Ann
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Johnston(e), Chirnside, Berwickshire, Scotland
Younger, Arlington, England, Dickson, MacDougal, Barber, Guthrie, Criag (fr. Ireland).
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Christopher
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Hi Ann,
Post a message on the Armed Forces board.
Regular posters on that section may be able to give you more information about the 2/16 Regiment.
Christopher
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Mick_Dolan86
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Hi Christopher
Just read your post today. My G-Grandfather, Alexander William Craig was born at Curragh Camp July 17th., 1870. His father was Thomas H. Craig, Mother Sarah Munroe Craig. Thomas and Sarah had 3 children, Sarah Born 1868 in Gunhill, Barbados, West Indies, Alexander Born 1870, Curragh Camp and Fannie Born Westville, Nova Scotia, Canada. Would there be any records at Curragh Camp stating where or when Thomas Craig was born and who his parents were. Thomas is listed as Sgt. 2/16 Regt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Ann
Nova Scotia, Canada
There wouldn't be any records at the Curragh for the British Army. They are held in the PRO in London.
2/16 probably means 2nd Battalion of the 16th Regiment. Before 1881 British Infantry Regiments were known officially by their numbers. The 16th Foot became the Bedfordshire Regiment in 1881. This link gives a good general history of the regiment
http://www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/16thfoothistory.html
In fact I see they had a long association with Ireland.
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malchie1
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how do i find out if my great grandfather was in army in 1886 the reason why i think this cause the 3 chikdren 1 born in Dublin 2 in scotland and one reason why they would move around they where marriesdin Belfast maybe he was in 13th belfast bn regiment would this info be one their marriage cert
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Ado
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My grandfather John Joseph Murray in 20th Hussars (Pte 4825, see postcard below, probably dated Sept 1910) deserted from Curragh Camp 4th Jan 1911 with 4 others from 20th Hussars and 1 from the 2nd Connaught Rangers. There had been 5 deserted on 2nd Jan from 2nd Conn Rangers, and 3 on 28th Dec 1910 from 2nd Conn Rangers. The reason preserved in the family for grandfather's desertion is that another soldier had shot himself through the head and this had really unsettled many of these young men. I cannot find a mention in the excellent record of graves at Curragh on this site of a death at that time.
The information about the deserters is from the Police Gazette, 17th January 1911, viewed in the National Archives - every issue of this weekly bulletin has a list of deserters on the front page (photos below), it was obviously commonplace at that time, from various barracks. It includes absentees of course, who may have wanted family leave at this time of year.
My grandfather was not caught - he and a younger brother fled via thier home in Workington, to the continent where they boarded a German ship bound for Australia. They (five brothers in all) fought in the AIF at Gallipoli and in France and all survived WWI, to settle in Perth, WA.
Unfortunately I cannot find any military records of him in the 20th Hussars in the National Archives although I have his AIF records and WWII records both from the excellent Australian Army archive website. It seems soldiers who died or deserted had no pension so their records were no preserved, unlike those who were discharged for various reasons.
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LizzieW
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My grandfather (19th Hussars) was also at Curragh Camp, but he got out by somehow persuading the authorities that he was apparently a "lunatic who was dangerous to himself or others" (As defined in Army Regulations of the time). He was sent home and straight to a mental asylum in 1906, but only 6 weeks later he was discharged. The archivist who find out the info from the asylum told me that there was nothing written on his asylum records apart from date of entry and date of discharge and that she'd never seen records like it.
Ado - Having read the book "A Most Delightful Station: The British Army on the Curragh of Kildare, Ireland, 1855-1922" it seems that there were often suicides etc. at the camp and I wonder if my grandfather was suffering from, what today would be called, post traumatic stress disorder, which seems to tie in with what you are saying was still happening in 1910 and caused many soldiers to desert.
Lizzie
ps. Should have said grandad was married only 1 year later and everything seemed to be normal after that.
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
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BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
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Pauline_Hutton
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My gt grandfather William Chamberlain was in the Curragh serving in the 6th Dragoon Guards in July 1869.
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pauline
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East London: Chamberlain, McCall, Selby, Coleman, Jones, Humphries, Davies
South London: Wannell, Carr, Sullivan, Holland
Kent: Day
Norfolk: Knopwood Caulk
Flintshire: Davies; Jones
Ireland: Rowe (Kildare & Dundalk), Collins (Cork)
Staffs: Carr, Powell
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cailin
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I believe that my great-grandad, John Wilson, may have been stationed at the Curragh Camp during WW1, although it is only family history - I have no exact dates or information to back it up. Originally from South Dublin City Centre, my Dad believes John first joined the South Irish Horse when they were based at Beggars Bush Barracks, which would have been just down the road. The Wilsons were farriers by trade, and by the end of the war, apparently John had been promoted to Farrier Serjent.
Can anyone confirm if some of the South Irish Horse were stationed at the Curragh, or would he have been dispatched to join another regiment / battalion to be at the Curragh??
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aj44
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For anyone who is interested in the British Army stationed in the Curragh Camp, you should read Con Costello's - "A Most Delightful Station: The British Army On The Curragh Of Kildare 1855 - 1922".
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