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Wall Leominster
« on: Saturday 06 May 06 15:37 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find my g/g/gf and family on the 1841 census

  William Wall aged abt 31 agricultural laborer
  Martha Wall aged abt 30 wife
  Charlotte  daughter 9
  Ann  daughter  6
  William son 8
  Emanuel 4

0n the 1851 census part of the family had moved to Kidderminster and they were listed as Whale
I would appreciate any help thanks
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 May 06 16:13 BST (UK) »
Hi ,
there are these -
HO107/422/24 Page: 3 

1841  Sugwaspool Stretton Sugwas
William Wall  30 yrs
Martha  30 yrs
James 6 yrs
Ann  4 yrs
?? female 1 yrs  (indexed as Thomas)
does this help?
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 May 06 16:16 BST (UK) »
Have to say they're the only likely ones I can find too

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E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 May 06 16:24 BST (UK) »
BUT...... in 1851 William Wall is also in Kidderminster lodging at a pub in Bromsgrove St ref HO107/2038/453 and the William Wall from Sugwaspool is still there in 1851.
So obviously 2 different chaps which still doesn't solve the mystery of where were your William and Martha in 1841

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E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 May 06 19:01 BST (UK) »

Is this their marriage
William Wall and Martha Oakley in Dec 1828 at Eye near Leominster ?
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 May 06 19:41 BST (UK) »
Have found the rest of the lodgers in 1851 besides William at the pub , Martha, Emmanuel (14 yrs) and Ann (16 yrs) are lodging with Ann Cook at possibly 'Love' Lane
HO107/2038
Folio: 522 
Page: 22 
transcribed as Wale as previously posted.

As Sue points out the Stretton Sugwas William and Martha are still there so need to be discounted!
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 May 06 19:44 BST (UK) »

where do they put as a place of birth ?
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 May 06 19:45 BST (UK) »
really helpful- Herefordshire!!
Beg your pardon- Leominster - am very mixed up !!
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 May 06 19:52 BST (UK) »
Looks good match for marriage then, although they were quite young.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 May 06 19:54 BST (UK) »
mmm- there is a Charlotta to William and Martha baptised at Eye 1829 - so that age would be different too.
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 06 May 06 20:03 BST (UK) »
They were married on 31st Decemer 1828, and I can see ANN baptised in 1834 - so that is a bit more accurate
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 06 May 06 20:05 BST (UK) »
I have to sayI am now stumped! I have tried all sorts of first name searches, surname searches etc but nothing seems to turn up. I have just looked at one page searching for Emmanuel - it wasn't him but the page was very feint. That may be the case for this family.
I would say that I have tried any possible mistranscriptions- and cannot find any that could fit. So ...
good luck
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 May 06 20:11 BST (UK) »

There is a Martha Oakly born to Ann [wouldn't you just believe it !] Oakly n 1806 at Aymestry, but that muddles ages even further...............
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Re: Wall Leominster
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 May 06 16:20 BST (UK) »

Have you tried the Wale/Whale variations ?
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