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Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« on: Friday 12 May 06 17:25 BST (UK) »

Does anyone know whether these shops (or roads, come to that!) still exist please? My gt grandfather, Thomas Goodall, was born in 1856 in Birmingham. 

The census shows the following:

1861 lived with his parents (Thomas & Elizabeth Goodall) at Springfield Street, Lady Wood. Thomas Snr listed as "Confectioner";

1871 with parents at 13(6?) Bakers Shop, Icknield Street, Ladywood - Thomas Snr "Confectionery Shop" - Thomas Jnr  (age 14) listed as "Merchants ......" can't make the last 2 words out!

1881 - 60 Newhall Hill, Lady Wood - listed as "General Dealer in China & Hardware"

1891 - 6 Villa Cross - now listed as "Engine Maker Turner"

1901 - 6 & 8 Villa Cross - "Confection & Tobacconist" - "Own  Account ... At Home" .

I have names and dates and, luckily, some photos, but I'm trying to get an insight into what living conditions would have been like in those days.

Many thanks,

Wendy


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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 May 06 02:21 BST (UK) »

Hello there is a site Birminghamhistory lots of Birmingham people that could help you and google the Astonmanor site,

I would love to give you the conection through here, but I have had so much trouble with viruses and I would not risk anything coming through.

Pam
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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 May 06 09:37 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the info Pam - fingers crossed, eh?

Wendy
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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 May 06 10:04 BST (UK) »

Hello Wendy.
Villa Cross stills exists,its near to Aston Villa football ground,
Newhall Hill is still there as well,it runs from what they call The Parade close to central Birmingham,more or less in the jewelry quarter.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 May 06 12:47 BST (UK) »

That's brilliant, thanks Derek! Gives me something to go on now.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 May 06 13:09 BST (UK) »

You are very welcome Wendy.
Take care.
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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 May 06 21:08 BST (UK) »

Hello Wendy
All the streets you mention are still there.
Springfield st. ran from Cope st. to King Edward road parallel to Monument rd. which ran into Spring Hill.On the other side of Spring Hill was Icknield st.Further along Spring Hill was Parade and Newhall Hill.Parade was a large shopping area and I wonder if this is where his shop was.
In 1860-70 Lady Wood was under intensive development as an overspill for B'ham.Below are some links you may find useful.
 http://www.historicaldirectories.org/This site is a bit fickle but worth the effort as I'm sure you will find home and business addresses here.
http://www.pbase.com/beppuu/old_bham&page=1 here you will find some old photos of the areas.
http://www.virtualbrum.co.uk/amazon/chinn.htm here you will find books on the history of Lady Wood.
Hope this helps.
Regards Jim
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 May 06 23:23 BST (UK) »

Wow! Thanks Jim! I'm going to be quiet for a while - all these sites to look at! Brilliant!

Wendy
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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 20:08 BST (UK) »

Wendy,
Update for you.
I used to work in, and around, Hockley, the district you are asking about.
Villa Cross ran from the junction of Heathfield Road/Lozells Road to the junction of Soho Hill/Soho Road. There was a cinema and a public house, along with a variety of shops.
Villa Cross was a scene of rioting in the late 1980's and last year. Parts of the area, at the time you are asking about was a quite well to do area, although parts had back to back houses. There was also a convent, still there, just a few hundred yards away.
Icknield Street ran from the Hockley Brook area, Hockley Hill/Soho Hill junction to the Parade/Spring Hill junction. This area had a quite extensive shopping area and it is also the site of the Birmingham Mint, now defunct. Bulpitt and sons, Swan Housewares until the mid 1990's, was also on the corner of Icknield Street and Camden Street. There is a large cemetery, with catacombs, on Icknield Street. The housing tended to be mainly back to back.
Springfield Street ran from Monument Road and, again, was mainly back to back housing with a some industry in the area. Bellis & Morecome being the biggest.
Parts of all these streets still remain. Newhall Hill is in the Hockley Jewellery Quarter. This is where a lot of jewellery is manufactured and there can be as many as six/seven manufacturers in one of the old terraced houses. The housing again was back to back in many instances.
I hope this has given you an insight into the area!
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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 20:32 BST (UK) »

Wendy,
Go to http://www.pbase.com/beppuu/image/34808237
The pictures in and around Summer Lane/Aston area will give you some idea of the living conditions of the time you are asking about.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 21:08 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for all this information - brilliant stuff! I'll take a look at the photos on the site you recommended now.

All the best,

Wendy
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Re: Confectioners Shop in Aston/Lady Wood
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 August 06 02:12 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Check out Mac's -  Ladywood website.  I'm sure you will find it with out me giving email add; not sure if i am able to on this site.

Good luck

Bo
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