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Bethan
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Please has anyone got the 1871 census for Bedford, I am looking for Barzillai Denton born 1865, possibly living with his parents James and Martha, there is another brother called Theadore born 1865 and a sister called Amelia, I cannot find Barzillai in the 1881 census, I would be gratefull if someone could help me , Regards Bethan
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Denton,Barfoot,Emery in Bedford.Howells of Pembroke,Davies of Rhymney,Jones of Carmarthen.
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Bethan
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Dear Sue, Thank you so much for all your help, Hugh the elder brother of Barzillai was my great grandfather,I am trying to find the French connection, family folklore says that we have French ancestors, but looking at the names of the children of James and Martha I am more inclined to believe that there is a Greek connection, or maybe just like the young parents of today James and Martha liked to give thier children unusual names, Thank you again for your kindness, Best Regards Bethan
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Denton,Barfoot,Emery in Bedford.Howells of Pembroke,Davies of Rhymney,Jones of Carmarthen.
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biglou
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Hi Bethan,
I assume that you are refering to Barzillai as the unusual name. Barzillai is actually a Biblical name from the story of David. I have both a Barzillai and a Barzillia (the female version) from around the same era in my tree.
It may indicate that the family were non-conformists, probably Baptists.
Paul
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NORTHANTS: Webber, Dickins/Dickens, Farmer, Facer, York, Tarry WARWICKSHIRE: Marston, Deacon, Nixon CAMBRIDGESHIRE: Webber LEICESTERSHIRE: Webber, Upton, Oram, Meadows, Gregory, Screaton, Deacon, Hollis, Jalland, Hassell, Neal NOTTINGHAMSHIRE: Screaton YORKSHIRE: Oram LANCASHIRE: Jalland, Screaton DUBLIN: Thompson, McLoughlin, Harbourne, Richardson, Murphy SUFFOLK: Screaton LONDON: Screaton
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Hi, seems to be more of a biblical connection than a French one.
Here is the 1861 census
James Denton, head, age 32, farm labourer born Hinwick Martha, wife, age 32, lace maker born Hinwick Caleb, son, age 11, school born Hinwick Amelia, dau, age 9, school born Hinwick Hugh, son, age 5, school born Hinwick Emiline, dau, age 2 born Hinwick
RG9 952 folio 15 page 27 Puddington, Bedfordshire
and the 1851
Thos Denton, head, age 55, ag lab born Bedfordshire Lavendon Martha, wife, age 59, lace maker born Bedfordshire Harrold Jas, son, age 23, ag lab born Bedfordshire Hinwick Martha, dau in law, age 22, lace maker born Bedfordshire Hinwick Caleb, grandson, age 1 born Bedfordshire Hinwick
HO 107 1743 folio 226 page 2 Puddington, Bedfordshire
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSewell - Surrey Lynch - Ireland, Devon and Channel Islands Whall and Pye - Norwich, Essex and Kent Cotterill - Warwickshire Adams - North and East Riding of Yorkshire Preest, Dufty Lewis, Aston - Forest of Dean
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I must admit, I got intrigued, and then got nosy, so ... for all those who were wondering, but were afraid to ask:
1 Kings 2:7 But show kindness unto the sons of Barzillai the Gileadite, and let them be of those that eat at thy table: for so they came to me when I fled because of Absalom thy brother. (KJV) Google gives 103.000 hits for barzillai, the first pages being mostly biblical references, whereas barzillia gives 604 hits, the first page being genealogy references for male children 
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe; Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861) and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site. All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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The Bettles don't seem to be anymore french either.
Marriages Jun 1849 Bettles Martha Wellingbro' 15 653 Denton James Wellingbro 15 653
1841 census HO107 8/13 Folio 6 page 5 Hinwick Puddington Bedfordshire John Bettles 45 Shepherd crossed through and Ag lab inserted Sarah Bettles 45 Willm Bettles 20 Bedfordshire Mary Bettles 16 Bedfordshire John Bettles 14 Bedfordshire Martha Bettles 12 Bedfordshire Hannah Bettles 7 Bedfordshire Sarah Bettles 3 Bedfordshire
1851 census HO107 1743 folio 227 Hinwick Puddington Bedfordshire John Bettle 55 Bozeat, Northamptonshire, Head Married Ag Lab Sarah Bettle 56 Irchester, Northamptonshire, Wife Married Sophia Bettle 22 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Son's wife Married Lacemaker Hannan Bettle 17 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Daughter Lacemaker Sarah Bettle 13 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Daughter Lacemaker
1841 census HO107 8/13 Folio 9 Page 9 Hinwick Puddington Bedfordshire Thos Denton 45 Bedfordshire Ag lab Martha Denton 45 Bedfordshire Hannah Denton 19 Bedfordshire Martha Denton 17 Bedfordshire Jas Denton 14 Bedfordshire
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Valda
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Bethan
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Thank you ever so much Nicky, Bob +Valda, you have all been really helpful and informative, and have filled in a lot of gaps in my research, it looks as if family legend has got it wrong again, unless I am looking at the wrong branch of the tree. Sorry that I am not able to thank you individually as I have not worked out how to do it yet, I am a bit of a novice on the computer, but thank you all for your help. Best Regards Bethan
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Denton,Barfoot,Emery in Bedford.Howells of Pembroke,Davies of Rhymney,Jones of Carmarthen.
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biglou
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Hi Bob,
My Barzillai was definately male.
Barzillai Deacon b 1839 Fleckney, Leics and his sister Barzillia Deacon born 1842 Fleckney. They also had a brother Job and a sister Hannah. Their Uncle Abraham founded the "Strict and Peculiar Carmel Chapel" in Fleckney.
There are several other related Barzillai Deacon males around the latter half of the 19th century.
Paul
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NORTHANTS: Webber, Dickins/Dickens, Farmer, Facer, York, Tarry WARWICKSHIRE: Marston, Deacon, Nixon CAMBRIDGESHIRE: Webber LEICESTERSHIRE: Webber, Upton, Oram, Meadows, Gregory, Screaton, Deacon, Hollis, Jalland, Hassell, Neal NOTTINGHAMSHIRE: Screaton YORKSHIRE: Oram LANCASHIRE: Jalland, Screaton DUBLIN: Thompson, McLoughlin, Harbourne, Richardson, Murphy SUFFOLK: Screaton LONDON: Screaton
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