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Mary Jane TRAPLIN
« on: Saturday 13 May 06 20:59 BST (UK) »

Seeking info on family of Mary Jane Traplin, b dec 12, 1840, possbly born in Canada or the USA, d. july 30, 1915 in Massachusetts, USA.  I am hoping maybe someone has her in their database and can provide me with her ancestry.  She married Jeremiah Pickup, b Hyde, England in 1837.  I have info on Jeremiah - need info on Mary Jane.  Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 May 06 21:10 BST (UK) »

Hi srcsdesk

Is this you, posting on web in 2000, with information now discounted re: Mary Jane's place of birth  Huh

http://genforum.genealogy.com/pickup/messages/61.html
Jeremiah Pickup b abt 1837 in Hyde, England, d 5/28/1898 in Holyoke, MA. He was married to Mary Jane Traplin, b 1840 in W. Springfield, MA and d 7/30/1915 in Holyoke, MA

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 May 06 21:15 BST (UK) »

yes, i am one and the same!!!  do you have any info?

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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 May 06 21:24 BST (UK) »

Hi
Rats  Sad, was hoping it wasn't you  Grin, and sorry no I have nothing except curiosity!  Though I note on IGI there is apparently a record for her that is "Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record":
Mary J TRAPLIN born 1840   West Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts.

Did she appear on the Census thru USA after she married PICKUP - ie: what do they say about where she was born?

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 May 06 21:32 BST (UK) »

1871 census in Hespeler, Canad lists her bithplace as England.  However, I have also seen a reference to a place called Aurora - i am told that is NOT in England, so I am thinking maybe it is Canada since Jeremiah emigrated to Canada.  It's a puzzle, for sure!!!
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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 May 06 21:38 BST (UK) »

Hi
Have you considered she was from the Old Country?
This one looks very good to me!

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
There is a birth:
March Quarter  1841
Mary Jane TRAPLIN
District: Helston  Vol: 9 page: 141
[The district Helston is in the county of Cornwall]

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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 May 06 21:51 BST (UK) »

i got her birthdate from her gravestone in Holyoke, MA.  Could that record you provided be the date her birth was registered in the UK as opposed to her actual birthdate? 

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 May 06 22:15 BST (UK) »

Hi
Yes the entry on BMD is the registration year - and being 1st Quarter of 1841, that Mary Jane TRAPLIN was very likely born end of 1840.
Here is info on how English Civil Registration works:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/civreg/

Her christening entry is on the IGI I thinK
Mary Jane TRAPLIN chr Mullion, Cornwall 13 Apr 1841
Parents: Richard TRAPLIN and Mary Ann

Mullion is a village is within the Registration district of Helston.
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/helston.html

I can find no other births of a TRAPLIN in Helston District on FREEBMD (which are not complete) but it indicates the family may have moved - perhaps they all immigrated when Mary Jane was young.  What did your Mary Jane and Jeremiah name their children?

I also can't find a Richard TRAPLIN on Census 41 Index name may be mispelled....?
There aren't many TRAPLIN entries at all on UK Census and on IGI, and most seem however come up in Cornwall....

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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 May 06 22:28 BST (UK) »

Mary Jane and Jermiah had 6 children

Charles b jan 5, 1891 m. Margaret Cousins b july 11, 1886 in bessbrook, armagh, ireland

George b. july 7,1865 in Hespeler, Ontario, Canada m. Martha Anderson

John b. feb 1, 1872

Albert b. aug 24, 1867 in Ontario

Lillian b sept 10, 1875 m. Bernard Abbott

Gladys b. abt 1883 m. Grover Gowett

Frederick b. mar 3, 1869  in Ontario

George, Albert and Fred are listed in the 1871 Canadian Census for Hespeler, Ontario, Canada - not sure where the other children were born.  in 1880, Jeremiah was in USA per the 1880 census.

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 May 06 22:29 BST (UK) »

ooopppsss, can't count Grin  - that would be 7 children (guess when you have that many you lose count, hehehehehehe)
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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 May 06 22:30 BST (UK) »

Hi
Woo, found reference to Richard TRAPLIN in 1841 Census:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/40138b.html
Parish of Mawgan In Meneage, Book 9 Folio 21 Page 4
Place: Pradanack Wartha

Richard TRAPLIN age 40, Occ: Ag Lab, born In county
Mary TRAPLIN age 30 born In county
Elizabeth TRAPLIN age 10 born In county
Grace TRAPLIN age 7 born In county
John TRAPLIN age 3 born In county
Mary TRAPLIN age 6months born in County
Sarah PLOMER age 30,School Mistress, born in county


Census 1841 does not give relationships, so it is only the assumption (probable) that this is a Couple and their children - they are however all in the same Household. Ages in that Census were also supposed to be rounded back to nearest 5 years for people over 15. So both Richard and Mary could have actually been a few yrs older than is stated.

If you look on IGI there is a probable Richard TRAPLIN birth to match.
And take a good browse thru this site:
http://www.westcountrygenealogy.com/cornwall/mawgan/

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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 May 06 23:09 BST (UK) »

Hi
Grin We were cross posting....so, I was hoping your couple had children which would echo Richard TRAPLIN's children, ie: naming after Mary Jane's siblings and parents, but not apparently so  Sad Still....

IGI has christenings of : Parents Richard TRAPLIN and Mary Ann (Maryanne)
Elizabeth Anne TRAPLIN Christening 05 APR 1830   Mullion, Cornwall
Elizabeth  Anne TRAPLIN   Christening:  13 JUN 1831   Mullion, Cornwall,
Grace Harry TRAPLIN Christening: 24 NOV 1833 Mullion, Cornwall
John  TRAPLIN Christening: 06 NOV 1838 Mullion, Cornwall

The first Elizabeth may actually be a birth, not a Christening?

Can't find John on FREEBMD, so probably born before Civil Registration began Sep 1837. Harry, the middle name of Grace, could be MaryAnn's maiden name - there's a few Mary/Ann HARRY's of Cornwall on IGI.

Can't find marriages of  Grace, Elizabeth or John in FREEBMD. And no death of a Richard anywhere. No death of a Mary Ann/e but a couple of Mary's none in Helston.  But did find a death of an Elizabeth in 1859 Helston - if the family is yours and all emigrated it could therefore be from 1859 and not include Elizabeth.

I think, all in all it would be worth you getting the birth record of Mary Jane TRAPLIN born in Helston - hopefully the birth date will match and you'll be away  Grin Perhaps a liittle look on USA Census for Richard et all, too.

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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 May 06 03:28 BST (UK) »

Is it possible that she was the Mary aged 6 months in the 1841 Census of Mullion, Cornwall?  Perhaps she was the daughter of Richard and sister of our Elizabeth Anne b. 1831 who immigrated to Canada, probably before the 1851 census.   Elizabeth married John Baumstark - probably in Canada. 
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 29 May 06 04:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Ruby!
Well spotted - that Mary age 6 months is the daughter of Richard -  and in the link I posted above for the 1841 Census, I didn't check far enough down - just had another look:  baby Mary is at the top of the next page (Folio5) from the rest of her family is on Page (Folio)4.  ANd also in the household, listed under Mary  is:
Sarah Plomer age 30,School Mistress, born In county,

Have edited my post above to put them in.

I'll just have a look on the 1851, since I'm currently in a position to be able to do so - but it is certainly seeming as if the whole family may have emigrated to Canada and yay! It looks to me like yourself & "srcsdesk" ahve  made a cousin connection!

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Re: Mary Jane Traplin
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 May 06 04:09 BST (UK) »

Thanks for replying.  I haven't contacted the researcher about Mary but hope she will be reading this.  I just got back from Salt Lake City, UT yesterday and was working on my husband's Traplin line (just found that line this last year) and happened on this great chat site.  I'm in Spokane, WA - USA.  A long way from Cornwall but from what I have read it seems wonderfully interesting.

I believe Richard is the son of William Traplin.  Hope to hear from others.

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