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The HARPER Family of Bethnal Green
« on: Tuesday 16 May 06 17:42 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

I am having some difficulties locating any information about the Harper family from Bethnal Green. They do not appear on the IGI and I can not find their marriage details on the Ancestry BMD so I can send for their marriage certificate

What I am looking for is the marriage/baptism/birth details for James Harper (born 1830) and Ann Hughes (born 1833), their first child (James Harper) was born in 1850 in Bethnal Green and their second, Ann was a relation of fine. I managed to find her BMD details as so have her birth certificate and her mother is down as Ann Hughes.

I subscribe to Ancestry so have access to all the census' and on the 1841 on their appears to be two James Harper's and two Ann Hughes which confuses matters some what.

Any head with this will be gratefully received.
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Re: The Harper Family of Bethnal Green
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 June 06 16:51 BST (UK) »

Hello, Alan ,

Have you condisered that this family could be the Harper family you are looking for.

1871 census
RG10/491  folio 93  page 9
7, Cumberland Place, Bethnal Green

James Harper  age 43   Labourer   b   Bethnal Green
Ann  wife  age 39   Licensed Pedlar  b   ditto
Susan  dau  age 16  Perfumer  b    ditto
John  son  age 12   Rope Maker  b   ditto
Jane  dau  age 8          b    ditto
Charlotte  dau age 6    b    ditto
William   son  age 4    b   ditto
Mary   dau   age 1   b   ditto

Birth
James  Harper
Dec ¼  1850   Bethnal Green   II  3

Ann  Harper
Mar   ¼  1853  Bethnal Green  1c  280

There are no James & Ann shown on this 1871census  but they would both have been old enough to have flown the nest.

I couod find no marriage for James & Ann  in the years 1847 to 1850.

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Re: The Harper Family of Bethnal Green
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 June 06 19:29 BST (UK) »

Hi

Yes that is them on the 1871 census as I had already found them on there. I have Ann's birth certificate and by the date of the 1871 census she had already married hence her not being with the rest of the family.

I have found a marriage for James Harper and Ann Hughes on the IGI in November 1851 at Stepney All Saints, if this is true it means that they had their first child (also James) out of wedlock and that the 1851 census which has them as married must be in error.

It is a tad puzzling at the moment.

Thanks for the help Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 August 06 01:45 BST (UK) »

I just received the marriage certificate for Thomas Donaldson and Joannah Harper in the Parish of Sunderland.  Father of Joannah was Archbold.  Witnesses were James Harper and Eleanor Harper.  The marriage took place August 7, 1853. Archbold was a Joiner and both James and Eleanor signed the certificate with an x...

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 August 06 07:18 BST (UK) »

in the Parish of Sunderland.

Then I don't see a connection with my Harpers who were from Bethnal Green in London.
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Re: The HARPER Family of Bethnal Green
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 08 23:58 GMT (UK) »

Hi Alan,

Check out my family tree on Ancestry.co.uk, its a public tree called The Stevenson Family Tree. Do we share the same Harpers? Because I had trouble finding anything too!

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 January 08 10:03 GMT (UK) »

I have sent you a PM.
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Re: The HARPER Family of Bethnal Green
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 August 09 10:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Alan


The name haprer is listed several times on a web site dedicated to war memorials in bethnal green . it might be worth a look bethnalgreenwarmemorials.com

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 August 09 10:45 BST (UK) »

EDIT, after I posted all this. I did not realise this was such an old posting and presume you may have all this info by now.
Apologies,
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Hi Alan,

Marriage;
James HARPUR
December 1851
Whitechapel 2 697
On same page Ann HUGHES

Badly mistranscribed Shocked

This reg fits with IGI marriage in November.


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Re: The HARPER Family of Bethnal Green
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 August 09 11:00 BST (UK) »

There is also this although submitted has a batch no you can search.  Oviously you need to confirm info when you get the Marriage Cert.

James HARPER
Christened, 1829, Bethnal Green
Parents, William John HARPER and ELIZABETH

There are 6 children born between 1829-1840. Probably you would be able to find this family on 1841 Census.I havent looked yet.

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