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Re: M.SMYTH PEAS,CHIPS,FISH SHOP - Manchester
« Reply #180 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 20:35 GMT (UK) »

"he married Elizabeth Ann Cooper "

Oh puhleeeeeeez Barbara .... don't let me be related !!  Tongue

Here's 1911 Irish census for Dublin  Cheesy .... I was going to go through them ... but I had company !!

Law

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02gg/

Smyth

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02gh/

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Re: M.SMYTH PEAS,CHIPS,FISH SHOP - Manchester
« Reply #181 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 20:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi everyone,

Would just like to say Happy New Year to you all.  Poor Tony is by now probably wondering why he ever made the offer as it would appear that we are all raving bonkers  Grin Grin  O.K. I take it back as it is probably only me that is heading for the happy home - and is it any wonder?

Fire Spit indeed Grin Grin Grin

Cheers,
Mo
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« Reply #182 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 21:12 GMT (UK) »

Hi Floks 
 Grin Not bothering to change the typo I rather like it, always fancied being a shepherd  Grin

Well I've been for my helping of Fish & Chips tonite at M\c Library and not sure what I've got. No great announcement but possibly one new address Undecided

Went for the Salford City Reporter rather than M\c EN

Hi Tony

We have the deaths of the following people...

.... Margaret Ellen Smyth died 19/08/1944 aged 86 buried 21/08/1944
Copy 25\8\44 Interred at Weaste cemetery, Margaret Ellen Smyth of Snowden St, Broughton age 86
.... James Smyth died 22/02/1927 aged 64 buried 25/02/1927
Copy 05\03\04 Interred at Weast cemetery James Smyth of chapel St, Salford age 64
.... James Smyth buried 01/06/1904 aged 69
Copy , oops didn't note (sloppy!) James Smyth of George St. salford age 69
.... George Smyth buried 07/11/1895 aged 34
Zilch
.... Elizabeth Smyth buried 01/02/1887 aged 51
Zilch 2
.... William Smyth buried 13/08/1881 aged 14
Zilch 3

I can't see Snowden St on previous replies is it new? Also did a search of Lancs board and there is no reference so perhaps it is. Let me know

Cheers
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« Reply #183 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 21:40 GMT (UK) »


Well Mr Tony ...... I take it you met Ken ??  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Can I ask a question ? did you take copies by any chance ? 'cos I think the two James' are intertwined there !

Your favourite flok  Smiley Smiley Smiley

PS Well Mo ... Tony must think like us .... he came back !!  Smiley

Hope you're feeling good !! Smiley
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« Reply #184 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 21:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi Annie,
No i haven't caught up with Ken yet Wink

Didn't take copies because it would really have been a waste of time, effort and money. The quality of the images can be quite poor, even more so on the margins (fold) of the paper where these references came from. I had turn the images through 45 degrees to get them to the centre of the screen and try to coax them into focus, and then they could only be viewed by standing on one leg on the chair, with my tongue sticking out like a child copying his homework with a blunt pencil Tongue

All the information came from list of interments for Weaste Cemetery in the personal ads. No announcements or acknowledgements of next of kin, just the information I have given. I went a few weeks forward and back from the dates given but nothing. Is it worth trying the M\c paper, is it likely announcements would be there because of M\c rellies, let me know and I'll put them back on the list.

Can't find any ref to Snowden St, Broughton so far apart from 2004 post on Rootschat re 1891 census. Must have gone in the slum clearances Sad

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Re: M.SMYTH PEAS,CHIPS,FISH SHOP - Manchester
« Reply #185 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 22:04 GMT (UK) »


Tony
Dear me !!
Now you can expect a knock on your door, like the rest of us, and there will be 2 men in white coats, waiting to take you away. Ha Ha Grin

Should not have got hooked on this thread.  ; Smiley

There should be a Health Warning  Wink Wink

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« Reply #186 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 22:18 GMT (UK) »

Hi Dave,

How does Catch 22, go again?

The only way to get out is to plead insanity, except if you are you would never admit it and therefore you can't get out Cheesy Shocked Roll Eyes Cool

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« Reply #187 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 23:52 GMT (UK) »

It's all gone very quiet here, so I just had a quick look and mine is the only contributor's light on Shocked Does that mean you've all been picked up by the men in white coats Shocked And am I the only one left Shocked

Perhaps they are coming for me next Shocked

Better turn my light off, close the curtains, lock the doors and catch you all tomorrow. Oh forgot you've already all been caught Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Re: M.SMYTH PEAS,CHIPS,FISH SHOP - Manchester
« Reply #188 on: Thursday 03 January 08 00:24 GMT (UK) »

All the information came from list of interments for Weaste Cemetery in the personal ads. No announcements or acknowledgements of next of kin, just the information I have given. I went a few weeks forward and back from the dates given but nothing. Is it worth trying the M\c paper, is it likely announcements would be there because of M\c rellies, let me know and I'll put them back on the list.
Hi Tony

Many thanks for going to the Manchester Library to have a look. Salford Local Studies had already checked in the Salford Reporter and found no family notices for any of the family. They did not hold back copies of the Manchester Evening News and suggested that we approached Manchester Archives and Local Studies about that. We did and we got the response shown in Reply #160.

The address given for Margaret Ellen Smyth on her Death Certificate was 21 Northumberland Street, Broughton. There has been no previous mention of Snowden Street.

Now on a more serious note....

Apparently George Law had been an RAF navigator prior to joining the Navy. He was discharged after being asked by base for his height and position during an important mission when he replied "Five foot three, sitting near the front".

I am still trying to find out what his tattoo said.

DS Grin
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« Reply #189 on: Thursday 03 January 08 10:26 GMT (UK) »

I am still trying to find out what his tattoo said.

I think you'll find it said:  "here enter who ye all hope abandon"?  Grin

I've found Snowden St on an old A-Z (I used it to escape the men in white coats). Very close to Northumberland St, which housed a care home or hospital did somebody discover?
It's the 'Sno'n St' joining Rigby St and Bradshaw St.

 Smiley Barbara







* snowden__northumberland_St.JPG (89.79 KB, 500x460 - viewed 132 times.)
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DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew

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« Reply #190 on: Saturday 26 January 08 13:50 GMT (UK) »

Hello everyone

I hope that you have all enjoyed your period of convalescence from this thread and that you are now sufficiently recovered to try and make some more progress Grin

As Annie and Mo are already aware, I invested in a copy of the BVRI with the primary intention of looking at the Ireland entries to see if there was anything of interest.

I have now found something which looks very interesting (to me) and I have started a new topic on the Antrim board which shows the details....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,281570.msg1649861.html#msg1649861

The people may not be ours but they look like very strong candidates to be the parents of the Briggs Street family and (at the very least) we now have a specific place in Ireland to concentrate on.

Fingers crossed

DS Wink
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« Reply #191 on: Saturday 26 January 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »

Wow DS what a gorgeous new avatar  Kiss Kiss Kiss  How's a girl to concentrate with him in the corner?

But thank goodness we don't have to look up the 1,975 Smyths on the Dublin census

Happy new year!  Cheesy
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« Reply #192 on: Saturday 26 January 08 18:16 GMT (UK) »



Barbara ! .... put your tongue back in !!  Smiley Smiley Smiley ( looks a bit like Pete Best doesn't he ?? )

He's only showing off !! ..........  Grin

DS looks like you've had some good answers already on the Antrim board ! .... good for you !

I wonder if you might be lucky with this !! although it's a few generations back !

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Saturday 2 December 2006
Belfast Parish Register Published
Next Thursday, in St Anne’s Cathedral, the Dean of Belfast, Dr Houston McKelvey, will launch the publication of the Register of the Parish of Shankill, Belfast, 1745-1761 which is the tenth volume in the now well established Representative Church Body Library parish register series.
The old parish of Shankill encompassed the town of Belfast in the middle of the eighteenth century and its register records many of the residents of Belfast, both Church of Ireland and non-conformist, before the town developed into the great industrial centre for which it is best known. Some of the names are well known in the history and development of Belfast but for others this register is the only evidence of their existence. The church in which the register was compiled no longer survives. It was replaced in the late eighteenth century by a new parish church, itself subsequently demolished, on the site of the present St Anne’s Cathedral where the original register is still preserved. The register is the oldest surviving Church of Ireland parish register for Belfast.
This register has been edited by Professor Raymond Gillespie from NUI Maynooth and Ms Alison O’Keefe, a former graduate assistant in the RCB Library, and will be available from the Good Bookshop in Donegal Street, Belfast at £10, or direct from the RCB Library, Braemor Park, Churchtown, Dublin 14, at €15

I'll be back later to see what kind of havoc I can cause !!

Annie  Smiley
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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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« Reply #193 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 16:42 GMT (UK) »



OK you guys !! .... I think the time has come for us to get back in harness and sort this family out once and for all !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

We probably need a precis of where we are up to ... ( us baby boomers have no short term memory  !! ) DS did you find anything good in the BVRI ?? or should I say anything good for YOU ?!!!!

Looking forward to finding these Smyths  Tongue Tongue Tongue

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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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« Reply #194 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 17:36 GMT (UK) »

Gosh.

I skipped this thread after page 1 because I thought it was just about fish and chip shops. How wrong can you be? I'm hooked now because I used to live in Seaford Road (Sorry, I don't know a Mr Laws).

Just to add my two pennorth (of chips), regarding newspapers and death notices. Salfordians would put death announcements in the MEN (maybe because it's a daily whereas the Reporter is/was a weekly), but these would have be paid for, so if your burials are in a common grave (which I can't remember because I lost track) suggesting that funds were short, maybe they wouldn't have shelled out for an ad in the paper.
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