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anndra
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #90 on: Sunday 25 January 09 09:20 UTC (UK) »

Never thought of that variant April!
The names fit in the timeline and assume that the first William died in 1754/5. They are the only Gl*z*s that appear on OPR although there was a Helen Glayze married to Thomas Higgins in Edinburgh Canongate in 1818. Her (late) father is given as James Glayze, soldier in the Shropshire Regiment?
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #91 on: Sunday 25 January 09 12:16 UTC (UK) »

I found in the Revolutionary War Pension Rolls, US a George Glaize.  And a George Glaize arrived in 1683 with wife Isabelle and son George in Pennsylvania.  Will take a further look around to see how far I can get with that spelling.

When I was looking for the burial location of my 3x great grandfather, George Oswald Clazey, a researcher in New York found him under Glazey.

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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #92 on: Sunday 15 March 09 19:46 UTC (UK) »

I have some images from the kirkyard which i had previously posted and this afternoon created a thread with two posts and eight images including transcriptions of the stones but as has happened previously site management has sent the threads to a place where neither i nor anyone else is able to access them. Sadly many of the surnames displayed in your signatures may have connected to the small number of images.

Through choice i have pulled the images i had posted to this thread, i still have the images on my pc and will also have them posted on my preferred site (Family Tree Forum) along with the 50+ Borders area church images i already have online there.

In the meantime if anyone would like any copies of the images or details about the church photographs, mostly Berwickshire, Roxburghshire and North Northumberland (Berwick on Tweed area) please get in touch, surnames from the eight stones include

Allan
Clazy
Luke
Meikle
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clazey
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #93 on: Monday 16 March 09 09:11 UTC (UK) »

I would love to have a copy! And thank you for the offer.

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #94 on: Monday 16 March 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

All sent Sharon.

I have had a look through my assorted images (roughly 160 images of church and headstone pictures around the Borders area) and it's the only Clazy stone amongst them.

I tend to take images of the churches but have gathered a few (maybe 30-40) headstone images on my travels. Mostly the Dickson and Allan surnames together with a few in the surname of Meikle.

Again if anyone thinks they may be of use please get in touch.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #95 on: Monday 16 March 09 21:33 UTC (UK) »

3. James m.Helen Ker 1786, Hutton/Chirnside - issue found - 9 (5boys, 4 girls)

I have found George (1786), Margaret (1787), Helen (1793), Alicia (1793), John (1798), Joseph (1800), James (1802), and Mary (1809).  Who am I missing?

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3.1 George b.1787, Hutton; m. Jean Lockie c.1812 - issue found - 8 (2boys, 6girls)

Likewise I have Agnes (1814), Jean (1820), Jane (1823), Janet (1825), George (1825), and Isabella (1828).

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3.1.1 James b.1816, Edrom (named after paternal grandfather which follows the convention of that time, as does the names of the rest of the children)

Obviously one of  the ones I have missed.  Where did you find him?
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #96 on: Monday 16 March 09 21:38 UTC (UK) »

There are only 18 Sc*gal* births recorded on GRO in Berwickshire between 1553 and 1700 (all 1660 to 1700) and none unfortunately are Katharin so finding siblings and descendants is going to prove difficult. The spelling variations are Scougal(l), Scugal(l/d), Scowgal(l). I'll post anything I find that may be of help to you.

Try /s*ug?l*/ and you will find a few more.  Still no Katherines, though.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #97 on: Monday 16 March 09 21:41 UTC (UK) »

Does anyone (other than me) think that the William Clazy baptized in Berwick-on-Tweed in 1670 is the same William who married Katherine Scougal in Hutton in 1704?
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #98 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »

3. James m.Helen Ker 1786, Hutton/Chirnside - issue found - 9 (5boys, 4 girls)

I have found George (1786), Margaret (1787), Helen (1793), Alicia (1793), John (1798), Joseph (1800), James (1802), and Mary (1809).  Who am I missing?

Thomas b.1808 Mordington d.1878 Chirnside - m. Agness Tulley b.1807 Mordington= son James b.abt 1831 Mordington d. 1911 Chirnside - m. Christina Hersie Gilkie Kerr b. 05 May 1840 Edrom d.13 Mar 1928 Duns - f. James Kerr abt 1805 m. Mary Lawson 29 Sep 1807 Langton (9 issue) parents James Lawson b.abt 1780 - m.Hersay Gilkie b. 11 Nov 1773 Langton.
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3.1 George b.1787, Hutton; m. Jean Lockie c.1812 - issue found - 8 (2boys, 6girls)

Likewise I have Agnes (1814), Jean (1820), Jane (1823), Janet (1825), George (1825), and Isabella (1828).

James, as below, b.01 Jan 1816 Edrom d. 23 Mar 1880 Cleveland England - m.Ellen Lockhart 11 Jun 1840 Troy New York - b. 1816 Troy New York - d. 27 Oct 1889 Cleveland England.
Jane b.09 Jul 1830. first Jane d.<1830.

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3.1.1 James b.1816, Edrom (named after paternal grandfather which follows the convention of that time, as does the names of the rest of the children)

Obviously one of  the ones I have missed.  Where did you find him?

Census Cleveland England.  
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anndra
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 21:36 UTC (UK) »

Does anyone (other than me) think that the William Clazy baptized in Berwick-on-Tweed in 1670 is the same William who married Katherine Scougal in Hutton in 1704?

I do! - sounds more than likely - Berwick to Hutton only 6 miles.
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T. Michael Sommers
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 22:19 UTC (UK) »

Who were the parents of the George C. who married Agnes Middlemist?

The first we hear of George is his marriage to Agnes in 1751, so we don't have any record of his parents.  There are two possibilities: the William who married Katherine Scougal, or their son William (whom I will call `Junior').  The former seems more likely.

Given the date of George's marriage, he was probably born in the mid-1720s, so he could be a late child of William or an early child of Junior. (These are the only two Clazeys known to have had children at the relevant times.)  Neither possibility is inherently implausible.

However, ScotlandsPeople has a George Clunie being  baptized in Ladykirk in 1748. His father is "William Clunie or Clazie" (it was in the IGI, too, but I don't see it now).  Junior's last two known children were also baptized in Ladykirk in the 1740s, so this young George is probably his son.  But George was still alive in 1748; he had not even married yet.  That means that either Junior had two living sons named George, or that George was not Junior's son.  The former seems much less likely than the latter (although stranger things have happened).  So if George was not the son of Junior, he was probably his brother.

Does this make sense to anyone?
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T. Michael Sommers
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #101 on: Saturday 18 April 09 17:08 UTC (UK) »

In case anyone is interested, I found George Clazy the minister of Paisley, Renfrew, in Ancestry's 1871 census indexed under the name 'George Clarice'.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 12:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi I have just signed up to Rootschat.com and I am interested in the Clazy family - my GG Grandmother's brother Dr William C MCEwan was married to Agnes Clazy daughter of Rev George Clazy (b. 1860) of Paisley - I have the line from the McEwan side down to myself if anyone is interested.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #103 on: Saturday 19 September 09 19:57 UTC (UK) »

I have just joined Rootsweb and intrigued to find this Clazy thread.

I am descended from HELEN CLAZY born Eccles c 1800 who married JOHN LOWRIE

I have her parents down as George Clazy amd Agnes Alexander.

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #104 on: Saturday 19 September 09 21:58 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, wrong parents.
The Helen married to John Lowrie was born 04 Mar 1793 in Edrom, Berwickshire, Scotland, to James Clazy and Helen Kerr. She died on 17 May 1878 in Plympton Township, Lambton Co. Ontario, Canada.
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