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Clezy, Clezie connections
« on: Wednesday 17 May 06 02:50 BST (UK) »

I am looking for more information on this line through the women.  George Clezie married Jean Lockie 1813; GEorge Clazy married Rabina Bell 1819; James Clezy married ? but first child, Alicia b. 1793 Edrom; Thomas Clazie b. 1737, Edrom; George Clazy m. Margaret Brack, 1812; Buncles and Preston; John Clazy m. Margaret Gray, 1816; William Clazy m. Katharin Liongat, Hutton, 6/14/1703; Mary Clazy m. John Wilson, 1832; Margaret Clazy m. Robert Hay, 1841.  James Clazy m. Jessy Brodie, 1825; Isabella Clazy m. David Drummond, Eccles;

It is the 1703 entry that has me intrigued...I cannot get past this date and would love to discover who William's father was and where they were.

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 July 06 21:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Sharon,
I have just found in my tree William Clazy married to my Great grandfatherx3 sister Jane Ker Ross.
Williams parents are George Clazy and Agnes Alexander.
Jane Ross died between 1831 and 1838 and William then Married Mary Mason.
These Clazy's came from Hutton Berwick, Scotland.
Dont know if these are anyting to do with yours.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 July 06 22:19 BST (UK) »

William is definitely in the line.  I have George b. 19 May 1765, Edrington. Died:  5 October 1833, age 69.  Agnes Alexander b. 1769, Died 31 October1833.  George's father was George Claise married to Agnes MIddlemiss or Middlemist.  This is where things get confusing and I have yet to straighten it out...George had brothers:  William, John and James.

GEorge and Agnes Alexander had the following children:  George christened 26 January 1794; Margaret b. 1796 d. 1856; Adam b. 1800 d. 1837, Greenlees; Agnes b. 28 June 1804, Witnesses, Jn. Leslie & JA Knox; She died 14 August 1879; William b. 16 May 1807; and finally Helen b. 1810 d. 17 June 1839.  She married John Leitch.  He was of Lockton. Banns were posted 14 and 21 April 1833. She was of Eccles.

Son George married Robina Bell.   Their children were Agnes b. 18 January 1822. She married 13 June 1856, John Thomson in Eccles.

George b. 30 December 1824. Baptized 20 February 1825. He married Janet Kirkwood Orr, High Paisley Church. (He became a minister).

Margaret b. 24 December 1827, baptised January 15, 1828.  Witnesses:  Mr. Oliver and Mr. Waddell.

Jane, b. 11 December1832, baptised January 1833. Witnesses:  Adam Clazy and Davidson.

I have a letter from 1932 from the last surviving member of this line. It was sent to Dr. Peter Clezy in Australia as he was researching the family history.  His line comes down from the son, John of George Claise. married Margaret Palen.  He is in his 90s now and I am waiting for some papers he was going to send which should straighten out this tree. 

My problem is John Clazie...Dr. Clezy is certain he comes down from William but to date, I cannot locate the man except he was a miller in Berwick-Upon-Tweed in 1815...he died when his three sons were young...

This is a lot of information...let me know if you want more...I have it all the way to George Robert Clazy who was in the Yukon Territory in 1901 sitting on a gold mine...

Sharon
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 13:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sharon,
I have just refound this post, I have read your reply and again those names fit. I dont know if any children where born to Jane or William as I havent found any yet. Also it looks as if none where born to William and Mary. But on Williams death cert. 13/2/1892 he has a niece called Margaret Doig. Margaret lived in Gladstone Terrace, Edinburgh. William died of old age and Paralysis, at the age of 85.
Really interesting.
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Anne.

P.S. William died in Kelso and he also married Jane there, his usual address looks like 43 Roeburgh Street, Kelso.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 15:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Are these of any use?

Eccles Church Yard.

john Hoy 8.6.1808  55 yrs.  dau. Isable 5.11.1808 23 yrs.  son Thomas 21.8.1818 25 yrs.  spouse Elizabeth Simson 11.10.1839 79 yrs.  son Rober 19.11.1866 67 yrs.  Wife of Robert Margaret Clazy  21.2.1885 89 yrs.

George Clazy 5.10.1833 69 yrs.  wife Agnes Alexander 31.10.1852 83 yrs.  son Adam d. at Greenlees 7.6.1837 37 yrs.  dau. Helen )wife of John Leitch) 17.6.1839 29 yrs.  ?  dau. of Adam Clazy (more buried by large stones)
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Agnes Clazy 14.8.1879 75 yrs.

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 16:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Becky,
These look like Williams parents. I know he had sisters and one being called Helen, on the igi it also says he has a sister Margaret, so maybe transcribed wrong on there. These are really helpful.
Many Thanks
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 16:50 GMT (UK) »

wonder if this is any help?

1841 census: sunwick cottages, hutton, berwickshire

the clazy family

william...age 50...ag labourer
isabel...age 43
jane...age 21...ag labourer
george...age 15...ag labourer
john...age 12...ag labourer
isabel...age 10...born england
elizabeth...age 7...born england
robert...age 6
charles...age 4
agnes...age 2

all born berwickshire unless stated otherwise

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 21:17 GMT (UK) »

This is wonderful stuff!!  William's wife, Isabel was Purvis? Or am I in the wrong William tree. And, I finally know where Charles and Robert go...

George Clazy and Agnes Alexander...was the son of George Claisye according to another Clazey researcher.    My line descends from George's brother...James. James married Helen Ker.

I am still having trouble sorting all these lines.  I am sure they are all related but the point of all tying in together is eluding me!!  I cannot find anymore on George Claisye...but there is a William about the same time married to Kathrine Liongat...perhaps William and George related or father and son?

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 December 06 00:01 GMT (UK) »

I had found the marriage of William and Jane Ker Ross and wondered if there was a connection between her and Helen Ker who married James Clazey.  I found his birth and his name was spelled Claizy. I live in the US - Jacksonville, Florida. As far as I have been able to find, with the exception of a Joseph Clazey who arrived in the US,  and a George Clazy who arrived in Baltimore, Maryland in abt. 1816 or so...few seemed to leave.  George Clazy married Margaret Brack in Buncle and Preston 1812 I think.  I recently heard from a T.M. Sommers whose 4x great grandmother was Margaret Clazey, a daughter of the above. That line continues.  My line...George Oswald Clazey, son of John Clazey and Isabelle Oswald...no boys to carry on the name. 

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 December 06 00:24 GMT (UK) »

hi sharon if you need any census lookups please let me know, i will do my best to help

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 December 06 00:42 GMT (UK) »

Joe,
Thank you very much for the very kind offer.  My brick wal is:  John Clazey married to Isabelle Oswald.  Their first son, George Oswald Clazie was baptized at Holy Trinity Church, Berwick-Upon-Tweed.  She in other records stated her birthplace as Ford.  John was the son of James Clazey (Claizy) and Helen Ker born in 1798, Longformacus.  I found that through Scotlandspeople and ordered the parish record.  George was baptized in 1815 or 1816 depending which source I found. John's family is located in Eccles Churchyard. According to a genealogy Isabelle was working on before her death in 1874, Bishopwearmouth...John died when the boys were small and too young to take over running the mill.  George's sister, Isabelle, died young in Berwick-Upon -Tweed...the other two boys, James and John were baptized in Etal.  But...there is no record of John or a death there. The clues I have is John's sister born in Fogo...she married a John Wilson in 1832 and was rebuked for a clandestine marriage. Isabelle wrote about a "benefactor" who rescued the family from hard times...and her son, James, erected a memorial to Mary in Guildford, Surrey, where she died.  The last son of John and Isabelle was born in 1824.  I have not been able to find Isabelle in any 1841 Census. Have not been able to determine or find any record of when John died or in Isabelle's words, "left the family".  He is not in the family plot of clazeys in Eccles.

Sorry to go on at such length...

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 December 06 10:51 GMT (UK) »

Hi Clazy,

This might muddy the Waters.

1851 Eymouth Village.
William Bell  H  M  54  Pauper Formerly Farmer  Berwick,Eccles.
Isabella Bell  W  N  33  Pauper Dress Maker  Berwick, Chirnside.
Isabella Clazie  Step daughter    4  Berwick,Eyemouth.

1851 Chirnside Village.
Peter Drummond  h  M  28  Ag.Lab.  E.Lothian,Athelstandford.
Mary Drummond  W  M  23   Berwick, Eyemouth.
Peter Drummomd  S   5   Berwick, Chirnside.
Margaret Clazie  Mother in Law  Widow  55  Berwick, Chirnside.
John Clazie  Nephew   10  Scholar  Berwick, Eymouth.

1851 Ayton, Millbank House.
Janet Clazie  Serv.  U  20  House Servant.  Berwick, Eyemouth.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 December 06 11:17 GMT (UK) »

another wee bit to add

1841 census 18 meadow place, edinburgh. the clazy family

george...age 47...home miseconay
robina...age 55
george...age 15...draper's app
margaret...age 13

all born scotland


1841 census: knowes, kelso, roxburghshire, the clazy family

william...age 34...manager of gasworks
mary...age 28...born roxburgh

1841 census: byethorn, selkirk, the clezy family

john...age 50...teacher...born england
mary...age 35...born scotland
mary...age 8
john...age 6
james...age 4
elizabeth...age 4
isabella...age 1

all born selkirk unless stated otherwise
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 December 06 11:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi Clazy,
Just for the record, 1841 Berwickshire, no Clazies found in;

Duns,Coldstream,Coburnpath,Westruther,Swinton,Hume,Langton & Ladykirk.
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 December 06 12:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi All,
The William and Mary on the 1841 census is his second wife Mary Mason as he was previously Married to Jane Ker Ross.
Sharon: I dont know if Jane was any relation to Helen Ker, I do know her parents were Robert Ross and Isabella Mathewson, These are the family that I come from. I am trying to find out if Robert or Isabella have the name Ker anywhere in their familys as it is a strange name to give Jane as I cannot find anyone else with it as a second name.
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