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clazey
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Here goes...I was sent a photograph of a headstone that was quite old. The sender had no idea where this stone was located as she found it in her great-grandmother's trunk. On the stone it said, "erected by James Oswald Clazey" or something to that effect. I have misplaced the photo and have begun tearing things apart looking for it!! I have more on that...Mary Clazie baptized 19 April 1809, Fogo. Father: James Clazie.
1881 UK Census:
Little House Farm Stringers Common, Worplesdon, surrey, England.
John Wilson, 75 b. Oxton, Scotland. Farmer
Mary Wilson, 68 b. Fego, Scotland
Arthur Williams 17, b. Weybridge, Surrey, Ag. Lab.
Elizabeth Hampton, 14 b. Woking, Surrey, Servant.
1841: Parish of Stoke, Manor Farm. Surrey
John Wilson, 30
Mary Wilson 30
It is a headstone...and as I recall it was good size. Mary died before John did so perhaps John's is nearby as well.
Sharon
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eltelf
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I have a Ninian Ker in my family tree who I think is the same one - mine had a daughter Geils (born 1792), who married William Telford (from Dumfries) in 1809.
'on September 10 1809 William Telford and Giles (Geils) Kerr, daughter of Ninnian Kerr deceased in Sunnyside. Having been irregularly married at Lambarton Toll on 27 August 1809 had their marriage this day confirmed by our Kirk Parson'
Sunnyside is I presume the farm of that name between Auchencrow and Reston, Coldingham.
I have not found any other trace yet of Ninian, but William and Geils lived in a farm called Stony Moor Riggs near Foulden, and their children are born in Foulden - they were living there in 1851, and at least one of their grandchildren was born there in 1850.
I would be very interested if anyone has any more information of Ninian Kerr.
I went tooling through the LDS site...
Ninian Ker married Janet Purves 03 February 1786 Chirnside.
Helen Carre born 28 May 1843, Edrom.
Father: Ninian Carre
Mother: Catherine Runciman
Margaret Claisy, 21 February 1789, Polwarth
Father: James Claisy.
Ninian seems to be a name that carries down...have you found any Ninians in the Kerr line?
Sharon
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eltelf
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Hi Sharon,
I have been tracing all the farms my Telford / Kerr family lived on - Sunnyside is still there but now a riding school for the disabled. Would be interested to see if there is a Kerr /Clezy connection. The Kerrs are a new bit of the family for me, but 'Ninian Kerr' should be unusual enough to find I hope.
Best wishes,
Lesley
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clazey
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Forgot to add...name was spelled Ker...I also have her burial location as well along with her husband and most of their children.
It was their youngest son, John, who married Isabella Oswald. I am descended from their oldest son, George Oswald Clazey. Their last and youngest daughter, Mary, married a Wilson...rebuked for a clandestine marriage...they had a farm in Surry and that is where both died.
Sharon
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caraid
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Hi
I've no connections to these family's but here is some MI from Chirneside you might be interested in
Number 181: Ninean Ker 14.7.1806 75yrs
on back
Mary Galdie?Calder? spouse to Ninian Ker tenant in Reston West Side 5.12.1775 45yrs, children Mary, James, Mary and Margaret son George
Number 182: John Ker late tennant in Green Mains 1.11.1787 68yrs
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Elizabeth Hogg spouse to John Ker portioner in Berwick 23.11.1808 43yrs. Ninian and 2 Johns and 3 daus. of their children who all died in inf.
Number 183:Helen Carr wife of James Clezy 5.4.1826 62yrs. son Joseph 18.5.1823 23yrs. said James Clezie 8.6.1833 66yrs. Margaret Clazey wife of Thomas Taucher 23.11.1856 65yrs. James Clazey son of above James Clazey d. Hutton 8.12.1860 58yrs.
These are from David Cargill's Berwickshire Monumental Inscriptions (pre 1855) and was compiled during the summers of 1867-1970
Fiona
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eltelf
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Hi Sharon and Fiona,
This is wonderful - there is lots here to get looking at. The Ninian Ker in the Chirnside MI that Fiona quotes could be the right one for me - when his daughter Geils married William Telford in 1809 he was deceased. I am on holiday in Spain at the moment, so a bit away from my records, but will check all this when I get back. Thanks again (Sharon - I will message you off list with my email - I would be v grateful if you could send me scan of the Banns & Marriages Chirnside that you mention).
Best wishes,
Lesley
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clazey
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I did a quick check through the IGI: Ninian Ker married Margaret Teleford 7 July 1818, Coldingham.
John Ker married Elizabeth Hogg 01 November 1785.
Ninian Carr b. 25 March 1806 married Catherine Runciman 17 February 1837. Father of Ninian was Thomas., Coldingham.
Scan is on the way.
Sharon
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caraid
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Hi again
Just found a Ninian Kerr maried to Marine Caldra 8th June 1753 in Buncle & Preston. That would tie in with Grave no 181 that I gave earlier.
Fiona
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eltelf
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Dear all,
Many thanks to you all for your help in my Kerr searches. I have now had a message from another contact who has done extensive research in the Kerr family in Berwick - so I am going to go through that.
The wonders of the internet!
I will keep an eye open for any Clezy, Clezie connections and post them here if I find them.
Thanks again,
Lesley
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