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Hogan
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Hello Izabel
long shot here but may i take up your kind offer.
My great grandfather served in India and south Africa, I believe with the East Lancashire Regiment. His name was John Owens. From Liverpool
He was with the 1st Battalion of the east Lancashire regiment in ww1 as a private and his number was 7021
This is a picture of him. i am told the uniform is that of the East Lancashire regiment.
This is all i have to go on sorry so not sure if its enough for a find.
Many Thanks
Anthony.
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liverpool annie
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Hi Anthony !
Heres a bit of background on the beginning of the Boer War and the East Lancs!!
At the outbreak of the South African War in October 1899 there seemed little prospect that the 1st Battalion of the East Lancs ( the old 30th Foot ) would share in the campaign - the regiment had recently arrived in Jersey for a tour of garrison duty at Fort Regent and were not included in the mobilisation !
The East Lancs had returned to England for Burma in December 1897 after seventeen years of foreign service having sailed to India in January 1880 - the most notale incidents in their long Eastern tour had been a terrible cholera epidemic at Lucknow in 1894 when 93 of the regiment died!
On December 19th 1899 the East Lancs marched to embark at St Helier amidst much fanfare and excitement!!They boarded the SS Vera by companies
The 1st Battalion were replenished with 600 more men from all over Lancashire -they went to Aldershot for training and with great fanfare left Aldershot to Southampton and boarded SS Bavarian - the strength of the Battalion was 25 officers 1 Warrant officer 39 sergeants 15 drummers and 891 rank and file!!
It might be worth getting the war diaries also for WW1 - some Regiments are available from TNA or you could get onto the War Forum and ask if anybody can look them up for you - but you'd need to sort out dates etc !!
Annie 
PS I'll look up the battles they were engaged in during the Boer War!
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liverpool annie
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Hello Izabel long shot here but may i take up your kind offer. My great grandfather served in India and south Africa, I believe with the East Lancashire Regiment. His name was John Owens. From Liverpool He was with the 1st Battalion of the east Lancashire regiment in ww1 as a private and his number was 7021 This is a picture of him. i am told the uniform is that of the East Lancashire regiment. This is all i have to go on sorry so not sure if its enough for a find. Many Thanks Anthony.
Anthony!
Do you have his medal card ?
Medal card of Owens, John
East Lancashire Regiment 7021 Private
you might want to download it - if you don't!!
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=4673053&queryType=1&resultcount=1
Annie
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Hogan
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Thanks Annie
How do i do it and what info will it give me?
Thanks
Anthony
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liverpool annie
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Hi Anthony!
If you click on that site I gave you - you're ready to download the medal card - they come 6 in a sheet and he may have more than one card!! costs 3 pounds 50 to download and when you get it - if you post it - somebody may be able to read it for you!!
Annie
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Hogan
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Hi Annie
I have downloaded the medal card for John Owens..It makes no sense to me and i dont know how to copy it from the acrobat reader to post it here.
Heeeeeeeelp 
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liverpool annie
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Anthony!
I'm as thick as two short planks when it comes to technical stuff!! - so I've asked for help for you! 
Hang on - somebody will be here !!
Annie
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Hogan
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Thank you Annie
I can send it by email but cant figure how to post the image on here. as you see im thick with tecky stuff too
cheers Anthony
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MaryA
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OK, don't know how clear this is going to be but it's the best I could do, it's John Owens Medal Card for Hogan, I think he wants somebody to translate what it all means.
Mary
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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manmack
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the john owens 7021 east lancs regt,he was in either the 1st or 2nd battalion,the 1st batt landed at havre on 22-8-1914,the 2nd batt sailed from south africa [wynberg] and landed at havre on 6-11-1914,mack
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military history,mainly ww1,manchester pals battalions,tyneside irish +tyneside scottish brigades,leeds,liverpool,accrington,birmingham,hull,barnsley,swansea and salford pals.
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liverpool annie
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Mack!
What were John Owen's medals?
Can you tell him what they are? and what else you can see on the card !
Annie
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manmack
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sorry annie forgot,he got the 1914-15 star,war medal and the victory medal,he was just a few hours from being awarded the 1914 star,if you landed in france or flanders before the 23rd nov you were entitled to the 1914 star,john landed the day after,mack
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military history,mainly ww1,manchester pals battalions,tyneside irish +tyneside scottish brigades,leeds,liverpool,accrington,birmingham,hull,barnsley,swansea and salford pals.
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Hogan
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Hi Annie Mary and Manmack
Thank you for the help, very good of you 
Cheers
Anthony
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