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Midgie
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I am trying to find more information on my great-great-uncle William A Rodger who was born in Yorkshire in 1844. He is said to have gone to South Africa with his brother Charles Rodger(s) and sister-in-law Mary Elizabeth possibly in 1909, then William A went to Australia. I have found his service record, he enlisted in the AIF in 1916, was living at 3 Gordon Street, Paddington, Sydney when he enlisted. He was in France and was later discharged from the AIF in 1919 as medically unfit. He died in hospital at Randwick in 1928. (I have no further information on either his brother or sister-in-law).
I would like to find out whatever I can about William A. Is it possible to find out when he would have arrived in Australia? Also does anyone know where he is likely to have been buried?
Apologies if this is a bit rambling - it's my first post!
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trish251
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Hi Midgie
Welcome to roots chat - wishing you much success in your searching.
I would have one query re your post - was he born in 1844? Would have been rather old to enlist  . Have you bought a transcript of his death certificate?
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent
Could contain the answers to most of your questions, as if the informant knew they contain a wealth of information. mmm - looking at his index record, the parents seem to be missing, so there may not be alot of known information. It should contain details on his burial - and if he told anyone at the hospital may say how long he had been in Australia.
Trish
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mrmagoo460
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Hi Midgie,
W. A. Rodger
Date of death: 29/7/1928
Cemetery: Rookwood
Section: 10 Row: 9 Grave: 1486
Denomination: Anglican
Inscription: Pvte. 5623, 19th Batt. A.I.F. (Military Plaque)
All the best,
Magoo
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PrueM
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Hi Midgie,
William A does seem to be much older than most enlisted men in WW1...what information does his personnel record have about his next of kin, birthdate and place etc? Does it tie in with what you know?
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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PrueM
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Hi again,
I have had a look at the service record of William Arthur RODGER on the NAA website. It states he was 32 years old in 1916 - therefore born around 1884. That's 40 years too late for your man  
This one gives his NOK as his mother, Mrs Rhoda RODGER, living in Leeds; and his birthplace as Ackworth, Yorkshire.
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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tropicalj
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hello there just had a quick look at his service records and it is now digilitised
but your age you have for him is way out
was he born in yorkshire
you can iew his record again
nut he was born in 1883 approx
regards jenn
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Research names or areas: I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire, ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalar |
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Jenn and the family 1960
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hello there
see i have crossed posts with Prue
ah well they say great minds and all that
regrds jenn
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Research names or areas: I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire, ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalar |
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PrueM
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Yes, great minds... 
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Hi,
I looked up the death in 1928 on the website given by Trish, if I've found the right one this is what it says,
Registration Number: 12638/1928
Last Name; RODGER
Given Name(s); WILLIAM A
Father's Given Name(s); 44 YRS P O W HOSP
Mother's Given Name(s):
District: RANDWICK
Maybe 1844 was just a typing error?
If so, I have found the following census which could be him (he has a brother Charles) and fits with the Rhoda info given by Prue.
1891 RG12/3702 f.111 p.10 Leeds
52 Craven Road
Tom RODGERS Head 42 Stone Mason Yorkshire Leeds
Rhoda Wife 50 " " Harewood
Annie Daur 19 Tailoress " " Leeds
Emily Daur 17 " " " " Ackworth
Walter W Son 15 Stonemasons Apprentice " " " "
Charles Son 13 Errand Boy " " " "
Mary Ann Daur 12 Scholar " " " "
William A Son 7 " " " " " "
I looked at this one earlier this evening but not knowing parents names etc. and it being RODGERS not RODGER I wasn't sure it was right, but now I think it's a good possibility, does anyone agree?
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Daisy
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PrueM
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Hi Daisy,
Yes, I agree - very good match!  I think that looks very plausible.
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
Glad you agree Prue because I have also found,
1901 RG13/4233 f.129 p.34 Leeds
32 Glossop St.
Tom RODGERS H 52 Retired? Mason Yorks Leeds
Rhoda W 60 " " Harewood
William S 17 Masons Apprentice " " Ackworth
Mary A D 22 Shirtmaker " " " "
I do hope we're on the right track, what a nice surprise it will be for Midgie
Daisy
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Daisypetal
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This makes it seem even more likely
1901 RG/4233 f.98 p.16 Leeds
11 Providence Rd
Charles RODGERS H 23 Joiner Carp Yorkshire Ackworth
Mary Elizabeth " " W 23 " " Leeds
I'm always so glad when they put their middle names
Daisy
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PrueM
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Hooray! Good on you Daisy!
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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tropicalj
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Jenn and the family 1960
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well done
a very interesting site
my older sister was and still is a nurse even at 64 she is still working
just to see some of those old uniforms poor buggers to do the work they did and to dress like that
even when my sis started nursing it was sill all starch and whites nwdays the nurses have so much freedon in their unifroms
but we digress
regards jenn
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Research names or areas: I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire, ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalar |
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