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MC
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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 08 October 06 13:32 UTC (UK) »

Oh Dear

Poor James! Cry

I was down there a couple of years ago and went in the Ferry that showed all the crosses on the Island.

I imagine that you have sent to Archives Tasmania and got all his papers?

They are a bit slow but very cheap! I was tracing three convicts and it only cost me A$26 and a bit.

The ones I got included such things as names of spouses, siblings, and native place. But strangely, not the names of their own children left behind, just how many there were - (can't expect too much or it might make it to easy for us!)

Have you tried subscribing to the mailing list? The people on it will go to a lot of trouble to get info for you - or they did for me.

I will keep an eye out for your James, I cant imagine that he ever thought of Tasmania as a place for a holiday.

Cheers MC



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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 October 06 10:49 UTC (UK) »

Thank's MC...yes.poor James...but then he was a naughty boy!! He was only 17 when deported.I plan to go over to Tasmania in the near future,as I feel a " calling".The Archives were fantastic and did send a copy of his record with description and tattoos etc. His indents ( whatever they were) did not survive.We have a transcript of the trial as reported at the time. My brother first came across the details of the case when visiting Tasmania 20 years ago,and read that he was pretty well educated at the time,and was actually allowed to teach the children to read and write. I have not managed to find information about that myself.Something went wrong because the archives sent a copy of his punishment leading up to his hanging,and he was absent without leave and neglectful of the duty bell,with hard labour and chains for 3 months!!!
It must have been sad to look out over Dead Mans Island....did everyone get a cross or were they for members of staff only?
How did you subscribe to the mailing list MC?
Well thank's again and cheers for now...thank's for the offer of keeping an eye open for James,who went under the false name of George Thomas. Cool
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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 October 06 12:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dawn
Re - Mailing list - as given to you from above
Tasmanian Convicts
http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/convicts/con_main.htm

Click onto Mailing List and follow the directions - They give you an email address where you send an email without a subject name, just the word subscribe in the body of the email, and that's it.

You will be asked to chose if you want 'Mail Mode' which is each email arriving at a time or 'Digest Mode', where they all arrive in one lot. I have tried both. There is no cost.

When you want to stop, just do the same again but this time put the word Unsubscribe in the body of  the email - and they remove you.

I go in and out of it - depending what I want to ask.

Re - the crosses - we did not get any
The day we were there, we went on a different trip to the one where they disembark and go onto the island itself - The ferry we were on just came alongside and you could see all the crosses, and they did a talk on it. It was too late in the day for the other trip. I have to tell you I was too tired anyway...

That day we had gone to Cornelian Bay Cemetery - left there and raced off and did the 'walk over the trees' thing,(forget where it was) it goes up to about 11 stories and then cantilevers over the river (it swayed too much) then on to Hawkesnest, that's where they had vicious dogs lined up to stop prisoners escaping in their day from Port Arthur & now they have fake ones (it didn't stop them all, they swam around to the beach) - then late afternoon we did the tour of Port Arthur.

The entrance to the Port did not impress me in that it was run like a franchise place with gimmicky things, and too many people - outside it was different - Hauntingly Beautiful in itself, and the surrounds lovely - huge expanses of grassed areas, but isolated - the choice for escape was the deep bush behind you or the ocean in front...

We went back to our motel at Hawkesnest for a shower and left to find a restaurant, dying for a meal,  and they were all closed!! Lucky I had a tin of baked beans!!

Going to Tassie is like going back in time - we drove down the West Coast and went for hours without seeing a car - forget about a house or shop!

The East Coast was different - there is something about the place though

My convicts were Irish - William Rourke, stole during the potato famine, & Rose and Mary Quinn (during time of famine also) & infant dau of Mary also called Rose  (Rose who was 20 died on board ship Cry) - all this for having a stolen petticoat in their possession! Mary left behind three other children - never to see them again.

I believe in 'callings' I hope you get there.

They did it hard in those days... Cry but their legacy they left is that we have it good!
Cheers Maureen


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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 29 October 06 09:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi MC and appologies in the delay replying but have been off line for a while
Your trip to Tasmania has made me want to go for myself more than ever!!
Thankyou for the details re the mailing list Grin
Poor Mary having to leave her children behind...what became of them I wonder?
It all goes to prove that we have no idea how hard life must have been.Some of the convicts were either so young or so old when they were deported...it is a wonder any of them survived the voyage.
Dawn
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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #19 on: Friday 05 January 07 02:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi all, i am doing alot of Early Tasmanian Pioneers we arrived in Tasmania and have scattered through out the Island and Victoria, A site i often look at is the Mersy Vale cemetery in the area of Devonport.

http://cms.dcc.tas.gov.au/Internet/City/Facilities/Cemeteries/CemeterySearch.htm

http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/

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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 January 07 22:56 UTC (UK) »

HELLO  THERE

no  link  to  add  but  the following  information  may  be usefull


what  is  on  Tasmanian  Records
Early Registrations 1803 - 1839

Prior to 1839 there was no official registration of births, deaths and marriages.  Between 1803 and 1839, the only records are Church Registers, many of which are kept at the Registry Office.


Births
Baptisms are the earliest form of Birth Records in Tasmania and contain:

registration number
Parish name, County and the year
date of baptism
date of birth
child's given name/s
parents' given name/s
father's surname (mother's maiden name not mentioned in most cases)
abode (ie Hobart Town or a street name)
father's quality or profession
name of Minister who performed the ceremony
Births 1840's - 1890's

registration number
date of birth
name of child
sex
father's full name and profession
mother's full name and Maiden Name
informant's name, description and abode
date of registration
signature of registrar
Births 1896 - onwards

registration number
date of birth
name of child
sex
father's full name and profession
mother's full name and Maiden Name
date and place of parents' marriage
informant's name, description and abode
date of registration
signature of registrar
In 1902 the parents' age and birthplace is included.  In 1909, previous issue of the marriage is included.


Deaths
Burials 1803 - 1838

given name/s
abode
date of burial
age
how person died
quality or profession
who performed the burial
Deaths 1840 - 1890's

registration number
date of death
given name/s
surname
sex
age
profession
cause of death (medical attendant included from the late 1880's)
date of registration
registrar's name
Later in the 1890's some records show where the person died.  From 1897 the birth place of the deceased is included.  By 1908 the name of spouse (or parents if single) is included.  In 1914 age at marriage and issue of the marriage is included.


Marriages
Marriages 1840 - 1895

registration number
date of marriage
place of marriage
given name/s and surname
age
rank/profession
signature and description of both parties
name of clergyman or Minister who performed the ceremony
date of registration
signature of registrar
names of witnesses to marriage
denomination of church
Marriages after 1896

All of the above plus birth place of both bride and groom, age of both parties, address of both parties and names of both bride and groom's parents.





Date and place of birth.

Names of parents.
Maiden surname of mother.
Fathers occupation.
In 1896 the date and place of the parents' marriage were added.

In 1902 the ages and birthplaces of the parents were added.

In 1909 previous children were added.
 



regards jenn
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Re: .....TASMANIA GENEALOGY.....
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 January 07 23:54 UTC (UK) »

Just a note

I have become very wary of RootsWeb mailing lists - use a free internet addres if you join one - mine was swamped - like 50-100 per day - with spam after I joined one. I also didn't get much useful information - many emails, mainly about pre 1500 stories that could never be verified.

On the other side - if you get a chance to visit Tas - it is so worthwhile - also relatively small so easy to get around. History is so well looked after - unlike some other states! The archives and library are almost next door to each other in Hobart & wonderful help from both places

Trish
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 23:14 UTC (UK) »

http://gravesoftas.dynup.net/Graves%20of%20Tasmania/Paupers%20A-Z/Paupers%20C.htm

here is  site  that list paupers who were buried in Tasmania 's
Cornelian Bay Cemetery  the list of names is so big a very sad thin to read but a very interesting site

regards jenn
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: TASMANIA RESOURCES
« Reply #23 on: Monday 23 July 07 07:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I'd just like to say a big thanks to those who have posted information on this list.
I first started reseaching my convict ancestors (William Gray on Katherine Stewart Forbes & Louisa Ellis on Angelina) 15 years ago but have only just started up again. In just an hour or so using the online sources suggested by this list I've added another 2 children to my convict family and I've also found both parents as paupers the Cornelian Bay Cemetery.  I'd had no idea that they had stayed on in Tasmania, family sources had suggested that they may have been living in Melbourne.
Thanks again
Sue
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Re: TASMANIA RESOURCES
« Reply #24 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:03 UTC (UK) »

Excellent news, Sue!  Cheesy 
Watch out though...now you're on Rootschat, you'll never leave!!  It's very addictive  Wink Grin
Good luck with your searching  Smiley
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Re: TASMANIA RESOURCES
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 00:42 UTC (UK) »

Burial Grounds of Tasmania - an extensive database of headstone photographs.


http://www.bgot.org



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