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Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« on: Tuesday 30 May 06 12:23 BST (UK) »

I came across these two articles from the Prestwich and Whitefield Guide:
(www.prestwichandwhitefieldguide.co.uk)

Memorial stone for former patients

http://www.prestwichandwhitefieldguide.co.uk/display.var.766113.0.memorial_stone_for_former_patients.php

Headstone will mark "forgotten" patients

http://www.prestwichandwhitefieldguide.co.uk/display.var.773240.0.headstone_will_mark_forgotten_patients.php


Apparently, between 1851-1968, 5,000 patients from the above institution were buried in the graveyard of St. Mary's Church, Prestwich without any form of headstone.
But there is now some happy news Smiley
A memorial to these forgotten patients has now been erected in the form of a five-foot high headstone made of Welsh slate.
Perhaps a photograph of the church and the memorial stone could be posted here on Rootschat since there have been so many questions by members about this place.

If you have a death certificate stating that your family member died at 535, Bury New Road, Prestwich, then this is unfortunately where they died. Cry

UKgirl
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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 12:30 BST (UK) »

The Registration District within which it falls has changed over time:

1837-1874: Manchester
1874-1924: Prestwich
1925-1934: Manchester North
1934-1974: Heywood

It's name has also changed over the years:

1861 Census: County Lunatic Asylum of Prestwich
1871 Census: County Asylum, Prestwich
1881 Census: County Lunatic Asylum
1891 Census: County Lunatic Asylum
1901 Census: County Asylum, Lancashire

1929-1948: Lancashire County Mental Hospital
1949-1994: Prestwich Hospital

currently: Mental Health Services of Salford

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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 12:48 BST (UK) »

From the British Genealogy Forum:

A very kind person has made a list of patients from Prestwich Lunatic Asylum who were buried in the graveyard of St. Mary's Prestwich.
All these patients originated from outside the area, hence the title:

"Strays buried at St. Mary's Prestwich"

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/index.php/t-8975.html

His kindness in producing this list from the Parish Records is, I am sure, greatly appreciated by the readers of Rootschat.

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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 21:15 BST (UK) »

Hi UKgirl,
further to your request to re-post a previous link i posted elsewhere, here goes


Found this on a site
http://www.gmcro.co.uk/catalogues/userguide/public.htm

When you get to the site use Edit - Find - Prestwich on your toolbar

A/PRES/ PRESTWICH HOSPITAL
Patient Records Patient Casebooks 1891 - 1913; Private Patients Casebooks - Males 1851 - 1905, Females 1890-1924, Index 1885-1919; Chronic Patients Casebooks - Males 1857-1914, Females 1855-1904; Notice of Death Books 1891-1960; Registers of Deaths 1894-1948; Death Books Addresses of Relatives and Friends 1940-1964; Admissions Registers 1851 - 1951; Civil Registers - Certified Male Patients 1907-1935, Certified Female Patients 1907-1948, Voluntary Patients 1935-1948, Temporary Patients 1941-1948; Registers of Removals, Discharges and Deaths 1893-1906; Discharge Registers 1893-1946; Registers of Departures, Discharges and Transfers 1907-1945; Registers of Departures, Discharges and Deaths 1949-1973; Register of Patients Discharged to Friends 1909-1926; Escape Books 1851-1860, 1891-1970; Index Books 1893-1974; Index Books, Transfers to Rochdale Workhouse (Females) 1893-1917;

Possible the death could be in the bit i've highlighted in red

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Tony
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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 May 06 08:40 BST (UK) »

The above institution should not be confused with the Prestwich Union Workhouse:

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Prestwich/Prestwich.shtml

Although both fall within the same Registration Districts, they fall within different Civil Parishes on the Census.

The Asylum lies within the Civil Parish of Prestwich
The Workhouse lies within the Civil Parish of Crumpsall.
The location of the Prestwich Workhouse was the Cleveland Estate off Delauneys Road, Crumpsall.

In 1918 it was renamed Delauney's Road Institution.
Then it became Delauney's Hospital.
Then it became part of North Manchester General Hospital.

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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 June 06 19:47 BST (UK) »

Hi UKgirl

After 4 visits to the church I have got your photos.

First trip gates were locked, second trip yesterday morning a wedding was about to start third trip yesterday afternoon "stone the crows another wedding".

Today Prestwich had its carnival but went on the off chance, Prestwich was busy but church was (excuse the pun) dead quite and peaceful. I have taken 12 photos around the church for you.

Here is one of the stone, sorry that line down the center is bird muck, I had nothing to wash it off with, I will when I get some time clean it up with PSPx digitally.

I have sent you a PM for your email address, hope you have Broadband the RAR file is 7.5 meg.

Regards
Ken

Now cleaned and resized and looks much better

As I took this photo, it is copyright free


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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester
Millington-Manchester, Birmingham
Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle.
Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire
Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester
Smith-Manchester
Carey - Manchester
Cotterell - Lambeth, London
Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester
Capper - Manchester

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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 June 06 20:18 BST (UK) »




You're a nice man Kenhar !!

Thanks for sharing the picture !! - interesting thread !

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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 June 06 21:02 BST (UK) »

Hi Annie

in't it just typical I am a Prestwich lad born & bred, but never been to this church, mucked around in St Marys park a few times which is next door. It must be one of these things you get to appreciate only when you start getting older  Grin
Only spent 20 minutes there and the oldest stone I found was dated 1641.

Just noticed your family lines - Howarth any of them from Manchester, doing some work for someone in Canada at the moment on a Howarth family.

If anybody would like to see the 12 photos I took please PM with your email address

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Ken

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The two attached aerial photos were taken using the free version of Google Earth, but I have no idea how Rootchat stands regarding the copyright, could you please clarify, I will make enquires myself with Google as well. This is a powerful tool for Rootschat searchers.


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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester
Millington-Manchester, Birmingham
Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle.
Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire
Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester
Smith-Manchester
Carey - Manchester
Cotterell - Lambeth, London
Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester
Capper - Manchester

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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 June 06 15:45 BST (UK) »



Hi Ken !

Sorry I just caught up with this post !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

My Howarth's are really slow in coming to light ! - I have loads of them - but all the same generation if you know what I mean  Tongue
My Granddad and Greatgrandad were born in Liverpool - but that's as far back as I can get ............... loads of other family in Manchester ..... so it's not an impossibility !!  Smiley Smiley

Thanks for sharing your photographs - I love seeing them !!

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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 June 06 06:34 BST (UK) »

Thank you Kenhar for the lovely photos.

When searching for a death or burial, some of us know where we will find them, but others of us may be completely taken by surprise.

I am sure that there will be many who, to their surprise, will find that their ancestor was buried here. It is sad to think about, but perhaps your photo will provide some comfort.

It is good that the church has finally acknowledged their existence.

And thank you Kenhar for your perseverance in visiting the church so many times in order to take the pictures.

It is much appreciated, both by me, and by those others who will stumble across this thread in the future.

UKgirl
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Re: Prestwich Lunatic Asylum later known as Prestwich Hospital
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 September 07 17:16 BST (UK) »

Thank you UKgirl and tony h
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