Lady Di
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Hi Folks,
I would like to find some type of confirmation that my great great grandfather's parents were George Piper and Helen Burness (married 1 May 1791 Marykirk Kinc)
What I have is this:
Robert Pyper (or Piper) born 1801 Arbroath (Census 1851).
He married Elizabeth WATT 22 May 1826 Fettercairn.
(Elizabeth was born Montrose accord. to census)
IGI : Robert Pyper Bp 26 April 1801 Arbirlot, s/of George Piper/Helen Burness.
I was given a date of death of Robert as 15 Feb 1876 (place unknown).
Census place in 1851 was Parish of Muirside of Esslie, Fettercairn, where Robert had a farm of 12 acres.
Would the death cert for Robert confirm his parentage?
I was going to "assume" that I had the correct parents and skip back to George and Helen but thought better of it. 
Would appreciate any possible assistance in confirming this line - please.
Many thanks
Di
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Lady Di
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Hi Isles,
Thanks for looking through the records.
Robert's date of death was supplied by another descendant who had recorded some of the family details. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of that date.
On his daughter's marriage cert of 30.07.1876 he is recorded as "deceased" so I felt that the date of death of Feb '76 is possibly not too far wrong.
Only other item was that he may have died at "Muirside" - again, this is possibly wrong. Of course this may have been based on the census place he lived at when he was alive 
Sorry - not a lot of help really 
Di
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Lady Di
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Thanks Isles,
I know that the 1873 death entry in Barry sounds right but I have never known the family to leave Fettercairn - and that doesn't mean a whole lot, I know.
I have the 1841 - 1861 census info but not 1871 or 1881. Would you recommend looking at these to see if Robert and Elizabeth actually moved to Barry (or somewhere else)?
Is SP the only place to view Scotland census? I have Ancestry but can't see Scotland on it.
Really appreciate your help - thank you
Di
PS - I noticed that you also have Burness. Is your family on the Burness Family tree done by John? and have you found any errors in it?
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Gadget
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Di
If you think that the one Isles has found is correct, I'll download the full image and can then get all the details. I've got a few units left on SP.
Gadget
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Gadget
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Just done it anyway and it has the parents that you mentioned. I'll PM you.
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Lady Di
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Thank You
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« Last Edit: Saturday 03 June 06 11:47 UTC (UK) by Lady Di »
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Lady Di
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Thanks Isles,
Your offer of a census lookup is greatfully accepted. I'm sorry you have to go via the dentist though - never the nicest of experiences!
I have been so impressed with John's website - He has obviously been working on it for years and years. If my George Pyper and Helen Burns/Burness work out - my lot will be there as well - certainly saves me a lot of work  (but as usual, I still feel the need to confirm my branches)
Thanks,
Di
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