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Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« on: Thursday 01 June 06 14:54 BST (UK) »
Hello there, please can someone offer me some help with this?

I have a marriage certificate listing Jack Castleman as publican at Erin (?), Market Street, Watford.

Does anyone recognise this address?  Was Erin a pub?

Any ideas/information/pointers in the right direction gratefully received!

Best wishes
Jojo
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Re: Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 June 06 15:05 BST (UK) »
What sort of date are we talking about JoJo???
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Re: Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 June 06 16:41 BST (UK) »
Yes, sorry - that would help, wouldn't it?  Roll Eyes
The marriage certificate is 1932.

I've tried various searches, but nothing comes up and 'Erin' seems an odd name for a pub to me.

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 June 06 17:02 BST (UK) »
I looked through Market Street on the 1901 census but didn't find any pubs, number 2 was a coffee house? But as the marriage was 1932 things could have changed. I am originally from the Watford area and Market Street is right in the Town Centre, although it is more of a shopping area there are a number of pubs and Restaurants in the Street. I am of course rather young to be commenting on Watford in the 30's Tongue But I will ask my mother if she recalls anything of that name, she too is a bit young but hey you never know Smiley. Good luck!! Cool
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Grimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex)
Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada
Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia
Hayward - London (Middlesex)
Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire
Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex)
Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire
Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London
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Re: Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 June 06 17:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

    Just had a look in the Kelly's trades directory for 1913 (the nearest year I could see online) and number 2 is still a coffee tavern, run by an Henry Bird.

   Maybe someone can find a later directory.

peterbennett
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Re: Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 June 06 17:50 BST (UK) »
How about contacting either the Watford Observer (they have a nostalgia page where they post peoples questions on the area) or Watford Museum? Both have websites;
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/
http://www.watfordmuseum.org.uk/
Maybe a long shot but they might just be able to help Wink
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Grimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex)
Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada
Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia
Hayward - London (Middlesex)
Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire
Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex)
Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire
Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London
Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire
Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 June 06 06:04 BST (UK) »
Had another thought, as Jack was a publican you could try looking at the Quarter or Petty session records for Watford Magistrate Court to try and find his Licence as this would give you the pub name. I imagine these would be kept at HALS http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/  not sure if they have a research assistant but may be worth contacting them. JK
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Grimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex)
Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada
Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia
Hayward - London (Middlesex)
Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire
Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex)
Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire
Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London
Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire
Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire
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Re: Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 June 06 12:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks for searching Peter.

Thank you JK for your suggestions.  I found a website - www.watford-photos.co.uk - which mentions inns on Market Street in the late 19th century.  Possibilities are The Compasses and the Green Man Inn - I'm beginning to wonder if 'Erin' is something the registrar misheard.  I've checked the marriage certificate again and that's definitely what is written.

Trying to find his licence is a great idea - I'll follow that up.
Thank you so much  Smiley
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Re: Pub? - Market Street, Watford
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 June 06 13:58 BST (UK) »
Looking at that website the Green Man was actually in the High Street, If you look at the modern(ish) picture with Natwest Bank on Left, gap for street, then Compasses (now Savoy Tailors Guild on corner)with Woolwich shown next to where Green Man was. Market Street is actually the (gap) road running down between the Natwest and Compasses.



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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Grimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex)
Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada
Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia
Hayward - London (Middlesex)
Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire
Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex)
Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire
Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London
Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire
Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire
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