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gougy
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Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« on: Friday 02 June 06 14:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have a bit of a problem....

I have a Richard SCUTT bc1798 Thakeham who married a Ruth...bc1803 (according to all census returns) Tillington (sometimes Pulborough). They had loads of children from 1826 to 1847. From the IGI and an SMI look-up request for a Richard SCUTT to a Ruth the only contender was ...

Richard SCUTT married Ruth SIVIER 21 April 1826 at Arundel

and from IGI I found...

Ruth SIVIER bap 7 June 1801 at Heyshott
Parents George and Mary


Heyshott is about 5 miles from Tillington I think? So far, so good.

However... having made contact with another SIVIER researcher I have run into another Ruth, this one SIVYER, who married William AULBURY 4 Feb 1822 at Heyshott (fron IGI) and apparently had at least two kids, one in 1835 and one 1847?

Two Ruths it would seem?? My Ruth never states Heyshott on any census and her birth year is always given as 1803 not 1801?

Can anybody come up with a baptism for another Ruth SIVIER/SIVYER about 1803 in Tillington (not covered by IGI)??

It looks like I may have been barking up the wrong tree  Huh Or have I??

Thanks

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Lishers of Sompting, Cunninghams of Houghton, Hammonds of Angmering, Humphrey, Hambleton, Ayling, Pope, Gent

London: Le Franc, Watson, Read

Cornwall: Phillips of St. Ives, Chappells of Penwith
Ireland: O'Connors of Co. Clare

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sillgen
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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 June 06 17:15 UTC (UK) »

According to the Sussex Marriage Index William Aulbury of Graffham married Elizabeth Sivier 4 Feb 1822 in Heyshott.  Witness Thomas Aulbury.   Perhaps this needs checking with the original source that the other researcher found?
Also SMI
George Sivier of Graffham to Mary Simms otp 48 Nov 1792 Heyshott.
I was amazed at the number of variant spelling for Sivier.  Some I would never have thought of.
Andrea
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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 June 06 17:25 UTC (UK) »

If you look at batch number C070621 on the IGI then you will see that George and Mary had 8 kids including Ruth and Elizabeth.  There is also another marriage in Heyshott for an Elizabeth which muddies the water somewhat - but not for you if you are following Ruth!
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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 17:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Andrea,

That's very interesting! Perhaps I was right after all - any chance of finding William AULBURY in the 1841 or 1851 with the wife to verify which one he did marry?
 Smiley
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London: Le Franc, Watson, Read

Cornwall: Phillips of St. Ives, Chappells of Penwith
Ireland: O'Connors of Co. Clare

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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 17:46 UTC (UK) »

1851 Graffham HO107 1652 F525 p15
William Allberry 53 Ag lab b Graffham
Ruth 52 b Heyshott
William 14
George 11
Thomas 8 all b Graffham

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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 17:50 UTC (UK) »

Also in 1851 in Heyshott a Thomas Sivyer who has married a  Ruth  Ho107 1653 F134 p20
Thomas Sivyer 45 Gamekeeper
Ruth 39
Mary 16
James 14
Eliza 11
William 10
Ruth 7
Thomas 3 all b Heyshott

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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 17:55 UTC (UK) »

1841 Graffham Ho 107 1102/5 F9 p14
William Albery 40 ag lab
Ruth 40
Sarah 7
William 4
George 1 all b county

Seems pretty conclusive.
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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 21:47 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Andrea - looks like there were two Ruths after all. Maybe they were cousins?
So if mine isn't the Heyshott baptism.... - Tillington is the most often given on census for her and a birth year of 1803. The search continues.... Huh
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Lishers of Sompting, Cunninghams of Houghton, Hammonds of Angmering, Humphrey, Hambleton, Ayling, Pope, Gent

London: Le Franc, Watson, Read

Cornwall: Phillips of St. Ives, Chappells of Penwith
Ireland: O'Connors of Co. Clare

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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 September 06 04:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi

The Ruth born in Heyshott is in my family tree and she married William Albury

Regards
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Re: Ruth SIVIER and Ruth SIVYER
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 28 May 09 08:43 UTC (UK) »

The postings I refer to are not recent.  However, there is mention of a Ruth marrying a
William Albury.
I too have a William and Ruth in my tree.
If you are still searching or have info to share I would like to hear from you.
I do have a considerable amount of Albury/Albery history which I can share, together
with a few photos.
Thanks, Ian
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