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1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« on: Sunday 04 June 06 10:23 BST (UK) »

Hi me again!
Hoping to find Edward Matthews and wife Mary.
Mary was born in 1805 around Salford, Lancs. area but has other family in Cheshire so not sure if she's in this county or not.
Her mother died in Cheshire and mentions her in her will so I know mary was alive in 1853 at least.

Thanks in advance,
Lilygirl.

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Re: 1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 June 06 10:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Lilygirl,

does this look like Mary? No husband in the house.

1851 Census  Hulme  Lancashire

Mary Matthews, lodger, mar, 46, Salford
Louisa, dau, 16, Lambeth London
Ada, dau, 12, Lambeth
Augusta, dau, 10, Lambeth
Mary, dau, 5, Lambeth

Lodging with  Eliza Tassiker who lets apartments.

H0107/2221
Folio: 144
Page: 12

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Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: 1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 01:35 BST (UK) »

Hi there Darcy,

Yes I think that does look like it could be her especially with a child named Louisa unless it's just coincidence.

Is there any Edward Matthews in 1851 that could fit at all or can they be found in 1841 at all because they would have some of the children by then by the looks of their ages at least Ada and Louisa Matthews

Also narrows down marriage dates a bit for me so thanks for that also.

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Re: 1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 June 06 04:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Lilygirl,

thought I would never find them! Grin

1841 Census  Lambeth

11 Orchard Place

Edward Mathews, 40, Warehouseman, not born in county
Mary, 35, not born in county
Louisa, 7, born in county
Ada, 3, born in county
Not known, Mathews, 3 weeks, born in county
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Elizabeth Sykes, 50, Female Servant, not born in county
Lydia, Prime, 20, Female Servant, not born in county

H0107/1056/6
Folio: 11
Page: 17

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Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: 1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 June 06 14:16 BST (UK) »

Hi darcy,

Thanks a lot that sure does look like them.

Is it possible to find Mary in 1861 at all??

Do you think it's right to assume that because in 1851 it says mar not wid Edward may still be alive then?? (I know it's not good to assume anything but how likely do you think it would say mar if he's dead in your research?? have you come across that before??

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Re: 1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 03:08 BST (UK) »

Sorry for the delay in answering - I have been away for a few days.

Here is Mary in 1861 - a widow. It is possible that Edward died before the 1851 even though Mary is recorded as married. I have seen this happen before.

1861 Census  Hulme  Lancashire

116 Rutland St

Mary Matthews, head, wid, 56, Salford Lancs
Louisa, dau, un, 26, Lambeth
Ada, dau, un, 22, Lambeth
Augusta, dau, un, 20, Lambeth
Mary, dau, un, 15, Lambeth
Elizabeth Sykes, servant, un, 70. Crofton Yorks

RG9/2892
Folio: 74
Page: 25

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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire
Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: 1841 and 1851 census lookup please Matthews
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 03:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Darcy
Hope you had a god trip away!
We had a frost here this morning minus 4 degree C in the good old Riverland yesterday too so bit nippy in the mornings!

Thanks for the lookups I was guessing he'd probably be dead in 1851 but will try and follow it up.

Ciao for now
Lilygirl.
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