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Topic: NZ: information on BDM certificates (Read 3203 times)
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angelbaby69nz
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i also highly recommened getting a photocopy of the actual document, when you order the certifcate they copy the information to a 'cert' and can often be wrong.....my grandfathers birthdate was wrong on the certificate but correct in the entry. Cheers.
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Koromo
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Jericho's summation of the details on NZ BDM's is excellent but applies only to birth and death certificates from 1876 and marriages from 1880. Certificates for BDM's before those dates is a lot less detailed ...
For everyone's information, even marriage certificates from September 1880 can be less detailed.
All I got from a printout/photocopy was:
When married, and where (date and church/place)
Names and surnames (of bride and groom)
Ages
Rank or profession
Condition (bachelor/spinster)
Name of officiating minister (or registrar)
When registered (date)
Bride and groom's "signatures" (not their original signatures)
Witnesses (in the presence of us ...)
So, not even their places of birth were given, nor fathers' names. Perhaps the registrar (in Waimate South) was using up his old book, before starting a new one with the greater detail.
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Koromo
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Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk________________________________________________________________ Lewis: Abergavenny | London | NZ | Chilliwack, BC Stallworthy: Bucks | Samoa | NZ | Canada Brothers: Nottingham | Salford | NZ Gronous: Kington | London Darling: Dunbar | Samoa Keat: Cornwall | NZ Bowles: Deal | NZ Coaney: Bucks Jones: Brecon  |
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Mk2_Zephyr
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Births prior to 1876
When born and where
Name
Sex
Fathers name
Mothers name and maiden name
Signature, Description, Address of Informant
When registered
Signature of registrar
name if added after reg of birth
1876 and onwards
When born and where born
Name of child and whether present or not
Sex
Father:
1. Name & surname
2. Rank & Profession.
3. Age
4. Birthplace
Parents: When and where married.
Mother
1 Name and maiden surname
2 Age
3 Birthplace
Informant:
1 Signature 2 Description
3 Residence 4 If entry a correction of a former entry.
Registrar: 1. When registered. 2. Signature of registrar.
Child: Name , if added or altered after registration of birth.
1913 and onwards
1 When born 2 Where born
Christian names
Sex
Father:
1 Name & surname
2 Rank & Profession
3 Age
4 Birthplace
Parents:
1 When married
2 Where married
3 Previous issue of existing marriage Living / Dead
Mother:
1 Name and surname
2 Maiden surname
3 Age
4 Birthplace
Informant:
1. Signature
2. Description
3. Residence
4. If entry a correction of a former entry.
Signatures of Witnesses
Registrar:
1. When registered.
2. Signature of registrar.
Child: Name , if added or altered after registration of birth.
Deaths prior to 1876
When and where died
Name and surname
Sex
Age
Rank or profession
Cause of death
Description and residence of informant
When registered
Signature of registrar
1876 and onwards
When and where died
1 Name
2 Rank, Profession or Occupation
Sex and age
1 Causes of death 2 Duration of last illness
3 Medical attendant 4 When last seen
1 Name of father
2 Name and maiden surname of mother
3 Occupation of father.
When and where buried.
Name and religion of minister or name of witness.
1. Where born. 2. How long in New Zealand
If issue living, state number and sex.
1912 and onwards
1 When died.
2 Where died.
1 Name 2 Occupation
3 Usual place of residence
Sex
Age
1 Causes of death 2 Intervals between onset and death
3 Medical attendant 4 When last seen.
1 Name of father
2 Name and maiden surname of mother
3 Occupation of father
1 When buried 2 Where buried
Name and religion of minister or name of witness.
1 Where born 2 How long in New Zealand
If issue living, state number and sex
Maori blood and tribe of father and mother
Spouse:
Relationship status at time of Death
Place of marriage
Age of deceased at event
Marriages
Date and place of marriage
Full names, ages, and conjugal status of the bride and bridegroom
Occupation of the bridegroom
Witnesses’ name, addresses and occupations
1880, also added were:
Birth place and usual place of residence of each party
Full names of parents of each party
Occupation of the father in each case
Maiden surnames or family names of the mother
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samthebarber
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Jericho's summation of the details on NZ BDM's is excellent but applies only to birth and death certificates from 1876 and marriages from1880. Certificates for BDM's before those dates is a lot less detailed especially for Deaths. It is true that certificates cost $26 but a Xerox print out of the actual registration is only $20 and sometimes conveys more information. They are a much better proposition for Genealogists in my opinion.
Alamar
[/quote Hi Al thanks again for the info; re, Aaron Sidney Thomas 16 nov; I would like a print out of the death
cert; I have tried 3 times with email, but have failed on each occasion what am i doing wrong? can you help.
thanks Samthebarber.
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lubok
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Hello
a family member had tried to get a birth record for another family member (born about 1937), but was unable to obtain birth information on this individual because it was 'locked', I've been told.
Why would this be? What are the reasons for putting a 'lock' on a record so it can't be accessed?
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Rachel
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smpabu
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Hi, One of the main reasons that it may be locked/sealed is that it could be an adoption record.
Not sure of any other reasons.
Someone else may know more than me about this.
Eileen
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lubok
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Thanks Eileen
I wonder if there was any way to find out if that individual had been adopted? What documentation would say they'd been adopted? (birth, marriage and death certificates?) Would I have to wait until a certain period of time had lapsed before ordering a birth, marriage or death record? (eg. when the individual has passed away)
Many thanks
Rachel
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Ball, Cleland, Dick, Escreet/Escritt/Eskrett (Yorkshire), Evans (Yorkshire), Felton (Solihull, Warwickshire), Gould (Cheshire and Flintshire), Guest (Cheshire and Flintshire), Hasting/Hastings (Yorkshire), Hickson (Durham and Yorkshire), Little (Northern Ireland), McCarty (Ireland and Australia), Mattheus/Matthews (South Africa), Sanderson (Hull, Yorkshire), Shelley/Shelly (Staffordshire), Southee (Kent), Summers (Fife and Glasgow), Turner, van Aardt/von Aardt, Millington (Cheshire)
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Koromo
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My father was adopted and he has two NZ birth registrations with different folio numbers: one in 1911 under his birth surname when he was born and one in 1916 under his adopted surname.
Last year I ordered his (adopted) 1916 certificate, quoting his birth parents and his original 1911 folio number. They would not send it to me until I quoted his adoptive parents' full names - which is why I was ordering it in the first place, to find out! Luckily I guessed correctly and I duly received his 'adopted' certificate.
It gave his adoptive parents' names and residence (but not their origins) and the statement: "This entry has been made under the Authority of Section 8 Births & Deaths Registration Amendments Act, 1915."
I don't know, but I have the feeling that if someone was adopted their original birth certificate is permanently restricted. In my case I didn't quite make 100 years to see if it might be different.
Cheers
Koromo
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Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk________________________________________________________________ Lewis: Abergavenny | London | NZ | Chilliwack, BC Stallworthy: Bucks | Samoa | NZ | Canada Brothers: Nottingham | Salford | NZ Gronous: Kington | London Darling: Dunbar | Samoa Keat: Cornwall | NZ Bowles: Deal | NZ Coaney: Bucks Jones: Brecon |
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lubok
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Thanks Koromo
I now set about trying to find another birth registration for this person. Are the BMD indexes available other than on microfiche at the local library? What about through the NZSG?
Many thanks
Rachel
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Ball, Cleland, Dick, Escreet/Escritt/Eskrett (Yorkshire), Evans (Yorkshire), Felton (Solihull, Warwickshire), Gould (Cheshire and Flintshire), Guest (Cheshire and Flintshire), Hasting/Hastings (Yorkshire), Hickson (Durham and Yorkshire), Little (Northern Ireland), McCarty (Ireland and Australia), Mattheus/Matthews (South Africa), Sanderson (Hull, Yorkshire), Shelley/Shelly (Staffordshire), Southee (Kent), Summers (Fife and Glasgow), Turner, van Aardt/von Aardt, Millington (Cheshire)
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