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Offline Juliepen

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WILLIAMS Lookup 1891/1901 Please
« on: Thursday 08 June 06 10:15 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

I am looking for information on John Williams and Martha E Williams.  He was born abt 1845 in Kington HEF and she abt 1835 in Barkway.  In 1881, John was a grocer, living or staying with Marthas brother Josiah Wood Castle, and his wife Mary.  I can find no children, or marriage date for John and Martha, so have nothing further to offer, sorry.

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JuliePen
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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 June 06 10:37 BST (UK) »
Hi  Juliepen

Do you realise that John Williams was born in Herefordshire - not Herts.

Have you found them in earlier census records - might narrow down date for marriage?

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Keith
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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 June 06 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith,

Yes, I did realise that he was born in Hereford, but assumed that as he married Martha, who was from Herts, and they were staying with her brother, that they would be still there in 1891.  I will do the same posting in Herefordshire, and see if there is any luck there.

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Shepherd, Turner, Hadley, in Birmingham
Price, Evans, Jones, Morgan, Brecknock
Hill in Malvern
James, Lewis in Glamorgan

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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 June 06 11:05 BST (UK) »
It would be better if you didn't post on both counties as the birthplace is a good search regardless of where they were living and it often duplicates searches to post in two places.  I'll try to give some earlier censuses to help.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 June 06 11:09 BST (UK) »
1861 Olives FArm, Hunsdon, Hertfordshire
JOhn Castle Head M 53 Farmer of 340 Acres employing 12 men and 5 boys Herts Barkway
Sophia S Wife M 48 Middlesex Paddington
Martha E daur U 26 Herts Barkway
Johnathan W Son Un 22 Farmer's son " "
Josiah W Son 11 Scholar                     " "
James W Son 5 " " "
Fanny Cutmore Servant Un 15 House Servant " Ware
RG9/804 Ware Stanstead Folio 41 Page 9
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 June 06 11:11 BST (UK) »
In 1871 Josiah was 21 years old, Unmarried, a Brewers Clerk, b Herts Barkway, boarding with William S Mallabran? and family in Broxbourne.
RG10/1349 Ware Hoddesdon Folio 43 Page 1
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 June 06 11:21 BST (UK) »
1871 High Street, Great Amwell, Hertfordshire
Martha E Castle Head Unm 36 Income from Houses Herts Barkway
George H Brother Un 30 Farmer Retired " "
James Brother 15 Scholar " "
RG10/1349 Ware Hoddesdon Folio Folio 94 Page 48
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 June 06 11:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary A,

Thanks for the replies.  I will take on board about the double postings for future.

Many thanks


JuliePen
Butson, Barn(e)s, Hartnoll, Reed in Devon,
Shepherd, Turner, Hadley, in Birmingham
Price, Evans, Jones, Morgan, Brecknock
Hill in Malvern
James, Lewis in Glamorgan

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Re: Williams lookup 1891/1901 please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 June 06 11:35 BST (UK) »
This is possibly the marriage
Martha Elizabeth Castle and John Williams December qtr 1880 Kensington 1a 133
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)