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TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« on: Tuesday 23 May 06 19:53 BST (UK) »

hi i have my grt grandfather and his brother on st mary,s baptism register , thy both have numbers for entrys and page numbers, john twigg 1855 on a boat in wolverhampton and james in 1857 but i still carnt get birth record i have sent to the records but carnt fined them
is baptism and birth diffarant record office
kind regards twigg
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:13 BST (UK) »

HI Twigg
I am confused..
You have found both brothers baptism records is that on IGI family History site?
Have you search Freebmd for their birth certificate records?
Explain both please so I can help you.
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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:18 BST (UK) »

thy are on the baptism register for st marys i sent to wolverhampton reg office thy sent back my check thy carnt fined the birth records so i carnt get the mothers surname sorry for getting you confused as i am,
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:23 BST (UK) »

I understand what you are saying but the baptism record and  the birth records are  different. Births  marriges and deaths are registered on the St Catherines index. pre 1837 all birth where recorded at parish church after 1837 you had to go to the registry office.
so please explain what you sent off and to who?
so I can understand to help you
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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:32 BST (UK) »

i sent to wolverhampton register office for birth cert ,for john and james  also i sent to southport, just carnt fined theregards twiggm, my be the birth was not registed in the reg ,office
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:34 BST (UK) »

Hi twigg,

If I understand your post correctly, you found the two brothers in the baptism registers and then contacted the reg office for the certificates?  As cardiff says, the two are not the same thing.  In order to find the birth certificates, the register office needs a set of reference numbers (the name of the registration district, year and quarter in which the birth was registered, and the volume number and page number where the registration can be found).  They will not do a search for you just using name and year.  

This information can be found in the indexes that cardiff mentions.  One place to search the indexes is www.freebmd.org.uk .  They are transcribing the indexes - they have a huge number of them done, but not all.  You can also search the original images of the index pages for free at www.ancestry.co.uk.  These are not searchable - they are just arranged alphabetically and chronologically so you have to search through each possible year looking for the name.  

Once you have found the index entry and the corresponding reference numbers you can write to the relevant registration office and get them to issue you a certificate.  

Hope this helps you.  You are right that the birth may not have been registered, but hopefully you will find them.

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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:37 BST (UK) »

thats kind of you thanks again
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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:40 BST (UK) »

Hi TWIGG,

No problem.  I just noticed that the freebmd address I gave you is wrong.  I have retyped it, but when I post it changes from org.uk to rootsweb.com!!  It should be www [dot] freebmd [dot] org [dot] uk . Hope that works!  Grin

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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 20:41 BST (UK) »

thank you
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 21:38 BST (UK) »

Twigg,

I found a GRO reference for birth of James TWIGG in 1857 as follows:

James TWIGG, March Quarter 1857, Wolverhampton District, ref: 6b 475

This may be your James that was baptised 29 July 1857.

Wolverhampton should be able to find the birth registration if you give them the Quarter, year and child's name.

If you want to order a certificate from Southport you can use this reference.

I would recommend trying Wolverhampton first because local offices tend to give a more personal service and will usually check some details for you to make sure its the right entry e.g. parents names, father's occupation.  Can save buying the wrong certificate.

I hope this helps you to track your family down.

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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 21:55 BST (UK) »

hi pine just like to say a big thank you to and you gaget, berlin ,and any one else that has helped me ,
pine this is the nearest i have had on james i will send off tomorrow keep my fingers crossed his mother is elizabeth, i feel good about it the 29th july is the d o b
kined regards twigg
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 22:02 BST (UK) »

Hi Twigg

I do hope it's the right one - it looks good. Remember this is the GRO reference not the local one, so you'll have to send to Southport or order online from the GRO. And, if it is, we can go about finding a marriage for George and Elizabeth  Wink

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Re: TWIGG - Wolverhampton
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 09:04 BST (UK) »

i feel good about it the 29th July is the d o b

Twigg,

If 29 July really is the date of birth and not the date of the baptism the entry I have given you can't be right as it would be too early.

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carnt understand it can you
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 June 06 10:55 BST (UK) »

hi pinetree
i have recived a letter back from wolverhamptom records office , you found for me 23rd may a gro ref, of james twigg sadly it is not the same parents   as my james, i have one james born on a boat in 1857 29th july the one you found was march quarter but i would like to thank you anyway for your time , i did ring wolverhampton records to ask about appling again for james july 1857 thy said thy will have looked already its not there , dont no were to go from here do you
kind regards twigg     


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« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 June 06 19:57 BST (UK) »

hi pinetree did you get my message
regards twigg

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