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Winter & Mitchell
« on: Tuesday 13 June 06 19:37 BST (UK) »

Can any one help with info on Winter or Mitchell, Edward Winter was my G/Grandfather b 1853. Selina Mitchell was my G/Grandmother b 1855. The only other info that I have is that they were Married in Thrapston Northants in 1876.
If anyone can help it would be much Appreciated

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 19:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Baloo,

Is this the family in 1881?
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=5538&r=5538&db=uki1881&F16=108279&rank=0

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 19:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Tanja

Yes this is them Many thanks

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:06 BST (UK) »

What happened to them? I can't see them on later census returns  Huh I can see a *possible* Martha in 1901 living with her grandmother Hannah Winter, but I'm not able to trace her back properly.

I think I have spotted Selina in 1871:
Selina Mitchell, serv, unm, 17, Kitchenmaid, b. Northamptonshire Grafton

at St George Hanover Square in the household of Clinton G Hawkins, Civil servant Foreign Department.
RG10/99 14 20

From there on, I think this may be her in 1861:
RG9/958 116 9
Grafton Underwood, Northamptonshire

John Mitchel, head, 60, Labourer, b. Grafton Underwood
Hannah, wife, 63, b. Tywell?
Soline, granddau, 9, scholar, b. Grafton Underwood

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:19 BST (UK) »

Tracing the Mitchell's back, they are with their son Alfred age 12 in 1851, and this looks like them in 1841:
HO107/803/12 5 5
Grafton Underwood, Northamptonshire

John Mitchell, 35, Ag lab, yes (=born in county)
Hannah, 40, yes
Joseph, 15, Ag lab, yes
Mary, 15, yes
James, 10, yes
Alfred, 2, yes
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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:21 BST (UK) »

Finally, the IGI has:
Selina Mitchell 
Christening 26 SEP 1852   Grafton Underwood, Northampton
Father Joseph Mitchell 
Mother Elizabeth Mitchell 

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:24 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that I will have to look a little deeper into the records.
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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:29 BST (UK) »

And tracing Joseph forth, I see in 1861:
RG9/959 118 13
Twywell, Northamptonshire

Joseph Mitchell, head, 33, Ag lab, b. Graffton
Elizabeth, wife, 30, b. Clipton?
Elizabeth, dau, 10, Lace maker, b. Twywell
George, son, 6, scholar, b. Geddington
Anne, dau, 3, scholar, b. do.
Thomas, son, 7mo, b. Twywell
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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:43 BST (UK) »

Thanks Another late night comming up.

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:50 BST (UK) »

The IGI has:
EDWARD WORTHWAY BUTTS WINTER  
Birth  24 JAN 1853    
Christening 05 JUL 1863   Godalming, Surrey, England
Mother HANNAH WINTER  

If it's him then I may see him in 1861 with his uncle James Winter at Thursley Surrey
(Edward B Winter, 9, Nephew, scholar, b. Thursley) while his mother - or at least a Hannah Winter who could be the one who is with a Bertha age 20 on the 1901 census - is an unmarried servant age 33 at St Paul Hammersmith.

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 20:54 BST (UK) »

Hm. Look at this:
1851
HO107/1568 106 45
Surrey Newington St Mary
172? High Street

Geo Simpson, head, 33, Operative Chemist, b. Surrey (can't read)
Elizabeth, wife, 33, b. do.
Edward W Butt, Apprentice, 19, Apprentice to chemist, b. Berks Newbury?
Hannah Winter, serv, unm, 25, Domestic servant, b. Surrey Thurlsey


Are you descended from Bertha, or are you aware of any other children Edward and Selina had?

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 21:07 BST (UK) »

And by the way, the Eliza Cooper, niece who is with the family in 1881 is the daughter of Joseph Cooper and his wife Eliza b. Twywell ca. 1851 (could match with Joseph Mitchell's daughter Elizabeth found above)

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 June 06 06:44 BST (UK) »

Hi
   Yes I am related to Bertha Margaret Winter she was me grandmother on my mothers side. She was born in 1880 and died in 1969. She married Arthur George Rozier in 1916.
   As far as I know she went to live with her grandmother when she was about 18.
   I don't think that she had any siblings.
   Again thanks for the info.

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Re: Winter & Mitchell
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 June 06 08:03 BST (UK) »

OK, I'm posting the 1901 here (I'm sure you already have it) for reference:
1901
RG13/73 121 52
Chelsea, London
20 Rawlings Street

Hannah Winter, head, wid, 78, Living on means, b. Surrey Godalming
Bertha, granddau, s, 20, b. London Pimlico
 
Still searching for any of them in 1891  Tongue
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