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DENBOY48
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Would someone out there please tell me what a Hacklepin Flattener did for a living, also a potato chip dealer.
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PrueM
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Hi Denboy 
I think a Hacklepin Flattener is something to do with textile mills - the hackles being the upwards-facing pins that flax etc. was dragged across to separate fibres and remove knots etc. No idea what the flattening would involve, though 
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (LND, Banff) - SWAN (Fife)
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Denboy,
My first thought was, that PruM is right, see this link
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/DERBYSGEN/2002-10/1035023882
'Spinning Wheels, Spinners and Spinning' by Patricia Baines [1979], page 24,
explains Hackles in detail.
'Hackles consist of circular or square clusters of metal teeth set upright in
a wooden board. There are usually 3 or 4 different sizes of hackles, each
becoming successively shorter and finer. The flax is combed through each set
starting with the coarsest and working through to the finest, thus cleaning
out the remaining pieces or boon, removing the short fibres and aligning the
long ones parallel.......... when hackling is completed the flax is stored in
bundles known as stricks and the ends either tied loosely or twisted
together.'
but then I found this:
... who married a hacklepin grinder (a maker of fishing lures) ... long link
but the writer might have got it wrong, she is talking there about a family of mill workers
other google references bring up "hacklepin grinder", "hacklepin cutter off"
Bob
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DENBOY48
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Thanks a lot everybody.
DENBOY48
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behindthefrogs
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Just to expand Bob's reference to fishing flies. The hackle is the neck of long necked birds like turkeys. The feathers from the necks were popular for making fishing flies as they could be used like the legs of real flies to keep the lure afloat. This type of fly was called a hackle.
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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behindthefrogs
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That is not really confusing joeboy because the hackler was the person who used the hackles to straighten and clean the flax.
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Berlin-Bob
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And still being done today, apparantly.
This site gives a comprehensive description of HACKLING and by the sound of it, between doing the actual work, and maintaining and looking after the machines, there must have been several "occupations" involved.(*)
Unfortunately, the site doesn't mention "Hacklepin Flattener" which was the original question, but (and this is pure speculation) I could imagine that these pins or hackles would get bent in the process, and someone would have to periodically staighten or "flatten" them - just a thought
Bob
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on the 1891 census for Hathersage, Derby, there are these occupations listed:
Hackle Pin Cutter
Hackle Pin Grinder
Hackle Pin Manager [Spin]
[Spin] Hackle Pin Grinder
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Hathersage/Census91-1.html
But no Hackle pin flattener 
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