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Topic: Shipsmiths - Smith family from Kelton, Dumfries - Lookup? (Read 765 times)
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Gadget
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DUMFRIES, a parish on the south-west border of Dumfries-shire. It contains the royal burgh of Dumfries, the villages of Georgeton, Gaston, Locharbriggs, and Lochthorn, and part of the village of Kelton. It is bounded on the west by Kirkcudbrightshire, and on other sides by the parishes of Holywood, Kirkmahoe, Tinwald, Torthorwald, and Caerlaverock." from the Imperial Gazetteer of Scotland, edited by John Marius Wilson, 1868.
From Genuki pages.
So the parish was Dumfries.
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Boongie Pam
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I can't get anything more specific than "mutual border of Dumfries and Caerlaverock parishes".
I've been through Dumfries census numerous times and I don't think this area is covered there - but I can check tomorrow when I get home.
Caerlaverock - not sure? I reckon whereever you find Glencaple you'll find Kelton listed.
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Boongie Pam
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From your quote it says "part of" Kelton is in Dumfries.
It looks split to me.
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Gadget
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It certainly does seem that way. Caerlaverock and Dumfries I think. I've got to go to Scottish Chamber orchestra, so can't do any more looking until later.
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Boongie Pam
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Check this out...
http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/dumgal/MiniWeb.aspx?id=86&menuid=917&openid=917
In the eighteenth century the parish [Caerlaverock] had seven villages. Of these Greenmill, Glenhowan and Blackshaw have mostly vanished. Shearington and Kelton are reduced in population and even Bankend has lost shop and school. The fate of Glencaple was rather different. Formerly a farm the Dumfries Town Council built a quay on the Nith and it became known as Glencaple Quay. Around the mid-nineteenth century shipbuilding declined but Glencaple as a resort was becoming increasingly popular. The Nith Hotel has been busy for 200 years!
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Boongie Pam
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Boundary map...
http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/bound_map_page.jsp;jsessionid=E13B907937E75F3EB8111C386621EBD6?first=true&u_id=10058703&c_id=10107260
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Boongie Pam
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1882-4 Gazetteer
Caerlaverock, a coast parish of Dumfriesshire, lying on the Solway Firth, between the rivers Nith and Lochar. It has its church on the Lochar, 4¼ miles W of Ruthwell station, and 5½ SE by S of Dumfries; it contains the village of Glencaple on the Nith, of Bankend on the Lochar, each with a post office under Dumfries, as well as the villages of Greenmill, Glenhowan, Shearington, and Blackshaw, and part of the village of Kelton.
There you go Sammidav.
You have a right pain in the neck as far as records go!!!
Best of luck,
Pam
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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Boongie Pam
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There are definitely 2 Keltons (even after my previous assertions to the contrary).
So both sets of records would need to be checked to be sure. But I think Sammidav has hits fro DFS on Scotlandspeople.
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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sammidav
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Hello again - this is a fine hunt! I have found some more helpful information in a book precis which also indicates Kelton is a village in the parish of Caerlaverock:
30. Through the Lens Glimpses of old Glencaple and Caerlaverock
The Parish of Caerlaverock has always been a little seperate from the rest of Dumfriesshire, the land forming a peninsula between the River Nith and Lochar Moss, however, the history of land ownership is also important. For around eight centuries the same family have owned the large majority of the parish. In Caerlaverock the Edgars of Glenhowan and the Stobas of Southfield were two such families. The landowners are the Maxwells, who built the first Caerlaverock Castle in 1220, became in later centuries Earls of Nithsdale, and, about 100 years ago, a descendant married into the family of the Duke of Norfolk. In the eighteenth century the parish had seven villages. Of these Greenmill, Glenhowan and Blackshaw have mostly vanished. Shearington and Kelton are reduced in population and even Bankend has lost shop and school. The fate of Glencaple was rather different. Formerly a farm the Dumfries Town Council built a quay on the Nith and it became known as Glencaple Quay. Around the mid-nineteenth century shipbuilding declined but Glencaple as a resort was becoming increasingly popular. The Nith Hotel has been busy for 200 years! Many local people have helped in the creation of this book, but particular thanks must go to Pat Grieg who, with good humour and perserverance, has seen it through to completion.
The book is available from libraries, museums, all good bookshops and local retail outlets, cost £2.50. Further information on all our publications here...
If you are not all exhausted as I am does anyone have information on the registers for Caerlaverock. According to another snippet there were ONLY 1014 people in the parish in 1801!!!
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Dawson, Abraham, Duck, Dolphin, Bromley, Milnes
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Boongie Pam
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The records cover the following years...
Film No. 815. CAERLAVEROCK
Film Segment: 815/1
B 1749-1819
M 1753-1819
D 1753-75
Film Segment: 815/2
B 1820-54
M 1826-39
D 1826-54
For what you are likely to find checkout this thread...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.msg767443.html#msg767443
As each parish is different it is hard to say what exactly you will find pre-1855.
Hope this helps,
Pam
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier
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