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shazs
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New to this- first web page
« on: Tuesday 20 June 06 09:39 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I've been so impressed by this site that I've just registered here and got my web page :-
http://thedayfamily.rootschat.net

I've tried reading the tutorials but I think I'm being a bit thick about what to do with my web site!

I've managed to change the one page that was a holding page. I've done this with Front page writing the HTML. I also managed to put a counter on from someones tips.

My probably stupid questions are as follows:-

How do I get other pages on my web site?

What do the special programmes do that are mentioned i.e Legacy -Are they just to write the HTML?

Can someone explain what all the features on the FTP manager are? i.e Create file, create directory

I can upload files into the FTP manager but what do I do with them then?

Thank you for your time & I'm sorry if these questions have already been asked.

Thanks, Shazs


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 June 06 10:26 BST (UK) »

If you have Front Page then you can use it to build pages 'by hand', then use Front Page File/Publish to put them on your website.

If you are using a family history program, like Legacy, to store your information then that program can generate web pages automatically. In Legacy select Internet/Create Web Pages... there are masses of options as to how the pages should look.

The FTP manager is a bit like the file manager on your own computer. You can create/delete etc files and directories inside you website.

Files you have uploaded using FTP will sit on your website but to be able to see them you need to create a link from you homepage (thats the one called index.html).

Hope that begins to help.
Tony


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 June 06 19:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Shazs

Welcome to Rootschat and well done for taking the website plunge.

I'm afraid I know nothing about Front page or Legacy, I use a separate website building software (NetObjects Fusion) and I can just add pages as I need to (It has a handy tree structure so I can see where to put them) and it's own FTP programme to upload the site.

Don't be afraid to ask anything (no matter how daft it sounds to you

) about building your site, we have all been there and there are some great people here who will talk you through anything you are unsure of.

Once you start ........ you will never finish

Good luck

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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 June 06 16:42 BST (UK) »

Thank you for your help-
I think I'm getting the hang of it. I've now got an extra page on my site. I've also now realised how much info I've got to sort and organise before going any further!!

Many thanks,
Shazs


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Grey Seagull
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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 August 06 16:41 BST (UK) »

I find I am being equally slow and need a bit of help please!

I had a friend put a holding page on my website and am now ready to upload the files I generated in Family Historian. I went into the management area and deleted some files, then uploaded all my new files.

But all I get are error messages.

1. All the files are 'loose', ie not in a folder. Should they be?
2. I only have one pic. Should that be in a separate folder?
3. How do I get that link from my homepage to show on the web?
4. And where do I find the tutorial programs? Been looking, but that seems beyond me too at the moment!
5. Are there any files I should not have deleted (eg files which connect my computer to the rootschat one?), and if so, how can I get them back?

Any other helpful suggestions?


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 August 06 19:04 BST (UK) »

Hi Grey Seagull,

What exactly did the errror message say Huh

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1. All the files are 'loose', ie not in a folder. Should they be?
2. I only have one pic. Should that be in a separate folder?
3. How do I get that link from my homepage to show on the web?
4. And where do I find the tutorial programs? Been looking, but that seems beyond me too at the moment!
5. Are there any files I should not have deleted (eg files which connect my computer to the rootschat one?), and if so, how can I get them back?

1) no they don't have to be. BUT once your website expands, you may want to think about a structure, similar to your hard disk, with folders for different themes, families, or topics.

2) same as 1) but think about it for later. Many people put all images ina folder /img just to be tidy . . .

3) You can enter your web addresss in your profile and a globe (as link) will show up under your info. in every posting you make on RootsChat.
To have it show on the rest of the web is longer, it take time, but you can help the process along with this:
Topic: TUTORIAL: Step-by-Step Guide to building your website
12) Getting your website noticed
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,93490.msg724901.html#msg724901

4) you can find one here:
Topic: TUTORIAL: Step-by-Step Guide to building your website
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,93490.0.html

and you might find this list of topics useful
Topic: RootsChat Topics: Help with building your website. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,70811.0.html

5) I don't think that any of the files were absolutely necessary.

Start at the beginning, and, keep asking, everytime you get stuck !

good luck,
Bob


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 August 06 22:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Bob,
Have downloaded CoffeeCup FTP and opened the program.

Have put in the FTP login on my new account information - ferrierfleminghart.rootschat.net - as the host name and the user name. Entered my password but cannot connect: get error message
Site not found. Make sure you are connected to the internet and your hostname is spelled correctly.
Have checked the spelling a couple of times, and I am connected to the internet. Am I using the correct name as the username and host name?

Any other suggestions?

Looks quite straightforward once I can get connected.

Oh I chose Abingdon RM. Might that make a difference?

Chris


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Grey Seagull
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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 August 06 22:19 BST (UK) »

Ooops!

Forgot the error message info! It is

The requested URL /404.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Chris


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bekahsgran
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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 August 06 22:46 BST (UK) »

Hi
I use coffeecup and it took me a few tries to get it right.
Have you put in the remote directory address?
My server configuration reads

'sitename'.rootschat.net

Webserver address
www.rootschat.net

Remote Directory
/ (this is the file it puts it into)

does this help at all?
Anne


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 August 06 09:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Anne

I have:
Host Name flemingferrierhart.rootschat.net
User name flemingferrierhart.rootschat.net
and passive mode ticked.

Can't find anywhere that says webserver address. Where is it hiding?

Chris


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 August 06 15:27 BST (UK) »

Okay Chris
Think you may have a newer version than I.
Could the host name need to be?
www.rootschat.net
As this the the site hosting your site.
Worth a try..........
Anne


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 August 06 21:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Anne,

Have version 3 of coffeecup. Tried www.rootschat.net as host name, but still not working.

I use Mozilla Firefox as my browser and can access the internet ok with that. But when I use Internet Explorer, it won't let me connect to the internet. I have been doing some diagnostics this afternoon to try to find out why it won't let me connect, and it would appear that I do not have an internet connection!!!

So maybe this is the problem.

I need to look into this a bit more, and hopefully once I get the IE sorted, coffeecup will follow...

I live in hope.

Thanks for your suggestions. I may be back...

Chris


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 August 06 00:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Bob & Anne

Have solved (part of) my problem!

I e-mailed my files to a friend and he noticed I had a capital I at index.html Embarrassed

So my website is now up, running and publicised! Cool

All I need to do now is work out what is wrong with my coffeecup and Internet Explorer connection (got my ISP working on that).

Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

Chris


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Paul E
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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 August 06 22:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Chris

And good it looks, too! Well done!

(My only suggestion is to consider whether you want to put your e-mail address on in full - you may find you are subject to more spam that usual if you do.

An alternative is to create a link people can click on which opens up a 'send new message' on whatever e-mail package they are using.)

cheers - and well done, again!!

Paul


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Re: New to this- first web page
« Reply #14 on: Friday 25 August 06 09:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.
Know someone who can help me with you e-mail suggestion.

Regards,
Chris


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