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Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« on: Thursday 22 June 06 17:18 BST (UK) »

There are some very lucky people on RC with an amazing collection of early photographs, some with a few and some with none. I fall into the middle category. I have lots from 20th century but only a few precious ones from the 19th.
To make my accounts of my Ancestors more interesting - just text is a wee bit dull - I have done the usual of going around places they lived and taken masses of photos.

But what of these non-imaged Ancestors - what did they look like, what did they wear? I've now come up with a possible solution based on techniques I used in my artworks. I try to get a feel for them in my head and imagine them. Now I'm going to create  images about them from that.

When I last did this, I was using chemical/darkroom techniques and it took ages - processing rephotographing etc. With digital photography, scanning and graphics programs, it can be done so much faster.

Here is an example of something I did 10 years ago. It is from a series I did about an old story of a drowning accident circa 1900. The subject of this image was the widow of one of the men. She had lived in an old cottage we then had. I didn't know what she looked like but did some research and imagined her. I then photgraphed someone and processed the resulting film - printing on soft 'art' paper, wetting it and crumpling it, re-photgraphing, painting various bits with developer to get differential development and printing up. This process was repeated a few times. It was part of an exhibition of Creative Women's Photography - Birmingham and touring.

Today, it's easy - why don't you all have a go.

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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 June 06 17:49 BST (UK) »



Well .... I cheated a bit ....... did I say that  Huh Huh Huh

My Granddad was supposed to look like his father .... ( no photo !!) and in later life everybody thought he looked like the actor Michael Horden ........ so ....... I got a picture of Michael Horden - rubbed a bit of wood stain around the edges and put it in a photoframe - and I tell everybody it's a facsimile of my Great Granddad !!  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
As most Americans don't know who Michael Horden is ...... they just smile and say OK Annie .... whatever !!  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 June 06 18:14 BST (UK) »


As most Americans don't know who Michael Horden is ...... they just smile and say OK Annie .... whatever !!  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Not just the American, Annie  Wink

Good for you - why not if he looked like him.

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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 June 06 19:47 BST (UK) »

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Today, it's easy - why don't you all have a go.

You must need a woman's imagination to do this I think!! Shocked

I can't see a face from 10 days ago let alone 110 years!

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 June 06 19:50 BST (UK) »

Just let the right side of your brain take over and you can imagine anything, Keith Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 June 06 00:41 BST (UK) »

I'm concerned now!  Huh

I'm beginning to think I don't have a left side to my brain.  Sad

I tend to think in pictures and your pseudorestoration appeals. So far I haven't had to resort to subterfuge as I'm one of the lucky ones with a few pre-1900 originals but nothing so far on my wife's side from that era so this idea will be stored on the left side 'cos there's lots of room  Grin  Grin  Grin

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 June 06 01:21 BST (UK) »

But with my approach Russell, you can produce images from before the advent of photography  Wink

Get that right side working - the left can speak for itself  Smiley

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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 June 06 01:48 BST (UK) »

So I can genuinely say

"Come up and see my etchings"    leer,  leer

Having chosen nursing as a career Keith's  suggestion that it was a woman's way of thinking got me wondering if there is something about the way male/female brains are wired up when it comes to visualisation of things   - or is it just that my wires are crossed.


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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 June 06 01:55 BST (UK) »

Don't worry about Keith, Russell - he's got far too many photos already - have you seen his website  Tongue
Anyway, his right side should be fine as he's left handed.
What he actually said was incorrect, but who am I to critcise him, he said he couldn't remember faces - I wasn't talking about memory, I was talking about imagination Wink
And with all those Scottish problems we've been dealing with, I think all our right sided skills have had to be used tonight Wink

G'night

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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #9 on: Friday 23 June 06 07:57 BST (UK) »

My problem is not imagining what any of my ancestors looked like, I tend to visualise them when I am researching them anyway, may not be a correct visualisation of them but it is how I see them and as they are all dead, noone can correct me.  For instance George Pilbeam, farmer, Sussex, 1851 was fat and bucolic with a bit of a temper. 

My problem would be transcribing those images onto something physical.  How do you start?  How do you choose your medium?

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Re: Distrestoration - for those with imagination but not many photos
« Reply #10 on: Friday 23 June 06 08:48 BST (UK) »

I think you can sometimes go by what the descendants look like, whether the face was round, square or long, nose & ears are also a clue, & some eyes are very sunken.

I am one of the lucky ones & have 3 large albums of my grandmother & gt.g'mother's going back to the mid 1800's, but my husband's side is not as fortunate, but I have made contacts over 20 years or more & have gleaned a few photos of his gt.g'parents & also more of mine, .... so put your ancestor's names on a number of well known sites & get those contacts, photos are so easy to copy now without fear of them being lost.

I have imagined relatives completely wrong through corresponding with them, & then to meet them & be totally surprised Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 June 06 09:00 BST (UK) »

I don't think it's accuracy of looks that I was really saying. It's a whole feeling that you might have about them - colours, shapes, textures.
Those photos that some put up that are out of focus or torn or faded might be a start.
Don't be too literal.

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 June 06 09:25 BST (UK) »

I see what you're saying Gadget,  Smiley
a general perception you have of folks from that era & social standing, .... I'm not too good at putting images to paper, with my painting I was better copying something  Undecided  ..... I suppose it's a bit like impressionist images that you're thinking of, it sounds very inspiring & would put your own slant on your history.

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 June 06 09:26 BST (UK) »

Having chosen nursing as a career Keith's  suggestion that it was a woman's way of thinking got me wondering if there is something about the way male/female brains are wired up when it comes to visualisation of things   - or is it just that my wires are crossed.




Russell, I did once hear that a womans brain is exacly the same as a mans, it's just that god put them in back to front.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 June 06 09:30 BST (UK) »

I quite like you once Denn  Smiley
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