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ryan
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1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:07 BST (UK) »

Hi!

Would somebody kindly search the 1841 census (or any others thereafter) for my Great (x4) Grandfather:

Robert HOPKINS, a Labourer & Fishmonger, born about 1800 in Shaftesbury or Motcombe. His wife was named Mary, and they had at least 3 children all born in either Shaftesbury or Motcombe: John b. 1830, Mary Ann b. 1833 & Sarah Jane b. 1837.

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:16 BST (UK) »

Hi Ryan,

I found this is the 1841 census for Shaftsbury. The names all seem to tie up but Robert's birth date is a bit out, even considering the rounding down of ages in 1841:

Bell Street, Holy Trinity, Shaftsbury
Ref: HO107/295/1 f15 p24

Robert HOPKINS, 35, Lab, Y
Mary ditto, 45, Y
John ditto, 10, Y
Mary ditto, 7, Y
Sarah ditto, 4, Y

Y = Born in county

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:21 BST (UK) »

Cheers Al, appreciate it

Hopefully someone can help with the 1851, etc.

Ryan.


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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:27 BST (UK) »

1851, Motcombe (No address shown)

Robert HOPKINS, Head, Widower, 44, Fishmonger, b. Dorset, Shaftsbury
John ditto, Son, 20, Ag Lab, b. ditto Motcombe
Mary A ditto, Dau, 17, b. ditto Shaftsbury
Sarah ditto, Dau, 14, b. ditto Shaftsbury

Ref: HO107/1851 f36 p5

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:40 BST (UK) »

Thanks again!

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:47 BST (UK) »

Hi agian,

From the 1861 & 1871 censuses it looks like he married his neighbour's daughter Mary Ann HELLIER and went on to have 2 more children; Joseph (b. abt. 1853) & Catherine (b. abt. 1856).

Will post the details later.

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 July 06 11:36 BST (UK) »

Al, do you still have the details for me?

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 July 06 00:52 BST (UK) »

Hi Ryan,

Sorry about the delay!

1861 Census, St Peter, Shaftesbury
Ref: RG9/1325 f51 p16
Address: Layford Lane

Robert HOPKINS, Head, Mar, 52, Fish Salesman, b. Dorset Shaftesbury
Mary A ditto, Wife, Mar, 48, b. Hants, Portsea
Ann STAINER, Daur in Law, Unm, 23, Glovemaker Leather, b. Dorset, Shaftesbury
Joseph HOPKINS, Son, 8, Scholar, b. ditto, ditto
Catherine ditto, Daur, 5, ditto, b. ditto, ditto

Next door are David HELLIER (77), his wife Ann (79) & their unmarried daughter (46 b. Portsmouth)

1871 Census, St Peter, Shaftesbury
Ref: RG10/1967 f54 p16
Address: Layford Lane

Robert HOPKINS, Head, 65, Greenwich Pensioner, b. Dorset, Shaftsbury
Mary Ann Ditto, Wife, 58, b. Hants, Portsmouth
Jane HELLIER, Sister-in-law, Unm, 57, no occupation, b. ditto
Emma HELLIER, Grand Daur, 11, Scholar, b. Dorset, Shaftesbury
Mary Ann Ditto, Grand Daur, 6, Scholar, b. ditto, ditto
Eliza Ditto, Daughter in Law, Mar, 31, Hawker's Wife, b. ditto, ditto
Charles STAINER, Grand Son, 10, Scholar, b. ditto, ditto

The house next door where David & Ann HELLIER were living in 1861 is unoccupied in 1871. Next door on the other side:

Joseph HOPKINS, Head, Unm, 16, Jobbing Labourer, b. Dorset, Shaftebury
George FRANWELL?, Boarder, 14, ditto, ditto, b. Somerset, Bath
Catherine HOPKINS, Sister, Unm, 14, Servant, b. Dorset, Shaftesbury

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Al


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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 July 06 11:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks Al! Never seen these Stainers before, this will keep me occupied for a little while.

Cheers.

Ryan.


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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #9 on: Monday 03 July 06 13:24 BST (UK) »

the only baptism i see is for mary ann hopkins bapt 18th aug 1833 shaftsbury st peters.parents robert and mary hopkins
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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #10 on: Monday 03 July 06 14:21 BST (UK) »

Quote from: ryan on Monday 03 July 06 11:19 BST (UK)

Thanks Al! Never seen these Stainers before, this will keep me occupied for a little while.

Cheers.

Ryan.

Hi Ryan,

I suspect "Daughter in Law" probably means step daughter i.e. Ann STAINER was Mary Ann HELLIER's daughter by a previous marriage.

Regards,

Al


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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #11 on: Monday 03 July 06 18:39 BST (UK) »

Thanks Al, that's what I thought too

Alli - Mary Ann Hopkins was born into Robert's first marriage to Mary Adams. They also had John (my Great (x3) Grandfather) & Sarah Jane who were baptised in Motcombe.

Cheers.

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 August 06 18:10 BST (UK) »

Hi
I live just outside Shaftesbury & am happy to look up any graves etc.
Layford lane could possibly be LAYTON Lane - which still stands. Plus st.Peters Church,if you'd like a photo via email

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 13 August 06 18:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Alison.

That's a very kind offer. I would appreciate any info regarding any Hopkins graves, as the chances are they're related to me. My Hopkins ancestors mainly lived in the St. James' area, so most would probably be buried there.
My main interests would be Robert Hopkins mentioned in this topic, his first wife Mary (buried in Enmore Green) & his second wife also named Mary, and Robert's parents William & Love Hopkins. Love is buried in St. James' churchyard.

I would be very interested in a picture of St. James' Church & Layton Lane.

Thanks allot.

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Re: 1841 & After/Shaftesbury/Robert HOPKINS
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 August 06 18:37 BST (UK) »

will get on the case hopefully this week if the weather holds!!
Where abouts are you?

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