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Astley Shropshire..The ADAMS Family..1860-1868
« on: Wednesday 28 June 06 20:47 BST (UK) »

hi..can anybody help me please regarding my g.grandmothers family..my g.grandmother was born in 1863 in astley,shropshire...her father was william adams 1834...his wife was sarah adams(nee lewis)1842..children as follows...john 1860-  benjamin  1861-  martha 1863(my g.grandmother)-  thomas 1866-  alice 1868-  william 1870-  fanny 1872-  walter1874-  edith 1876-  minnie 1878-  edwin 1880-  herbert 1884-  lizzie 1886-   I went to astley whit sunday and visited the church of st marys...i could only find 1 adams in the churchyard cemetery,and her name was susannah....very worn headstone,but it looked like 1870 born...susannah could have married one of the above brothers...anyone help with this family..IE marriages deaths etc...they all lived in a mansion house called astley house....kind regards...allan
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Re: astley shropshire..the adams family..1860-1868
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 June 06 09:42 BST (UK) »


Hi 55!!!

Firstly, check out this http://www.shropshirestar.com/show_article.php?aID=1012
and if you scroll down halfway down the article you will see a photo of Astley House.


Here's William and Sarah in 1861:

RG9/1867 folio 36 page 9 - Astley, Shropshire

Thomas Adams Head Widow 54 Ag Lab born Salop Astley
William Adams Son Marr 28 Ag Lab born Salop Astley
Sarah Adams Daughter in Law Marr 20 Ag Labs wife born Salop Astley
John Adams Grandson 12 months born Salop Astley


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Re: astley shropshire..the adams family..1860-1868
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 June 06 09:50 BST (UK) »

William in 1851:

HO107/1994 folio 12 page 42

William Adams Servant U 15 Ag Lab born Salop Astley

He's working for Richard Hampson, wife Margaret and their 5 children at Wackley Lodge, Cockshutt/Crosemere


I think this is could be William's parents in [b]1851[/]b: see next post, Ann mut be William's Step-Mother

HO107/1994 folio 526 page 30
Marton, Middle, Shropshire

Thomas Adams Head Marr 45 Ag Lab born Salop Westbury
Ann Adams Wife Marr 32 born Montgomeryshire Llanfyllin
Hannah Adams Dau 11 born Salop Middle


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Re: astley shropshire..the adams family..1860-1868
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 June 06 09:58 BST (UK) »


1841:

HO107/918/11 folio 18 page 4
Marton, Middle, Shropshire

Thomas Adams 35 Ag Lab Y
Mary Adams 40 Y
Ann Adams 13 Y
William Adams 8 Y
Martha Adams 6 Y
Hannah Adams 1 Y

Y = Born in County


I see in 1851 that Thomas's wife was Ann, so I assume that she was his second wife Huh


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:10 BST (UK) »


From FreeBMD:

Marriage December Quarter 1858

William Adams & Sarah Lewis

District: Ellesmere
Volume: 6a
Page: 1347


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« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:21 BST (UK) »


1871:

RG10/2767 folio 33 page 9
Astley, Shropshire


Thomas Adams Head Widow 67 Ag Lab born Salop Astley
William Adams Son Marr 39 Ag Lab born Salop Astley
Sarah Adams Daughter in Law 30 born Salop Astley
Benjamin Adams Grandson 9 Scholar born Salop Astley
Martha Adams Granddaughter 7 born Salop Astley
Thomas Adams Grandson 4 born Salop Astley
Alice Adams Granddaughter 2 born Salop Astley
William H Adams Granddson 11 months born Salop Astley


Also on the same page, in another property:

John Adams Head Marr 63 Ag Lab born Salop Astley
John Adams Grandson 10 Scholar born Salop Astley

No sign of the wife, but maybe relations.


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« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:32 BST (UK) »


1881:

RG11/2647 folio 34 page 7
Astley, Shropshire

William Adams Head Marr 47 Ag Lab born Marton Middle Salop
Sarah Adams Wife Marr 39 born Astley St Mary Salop
John Adams Son Unm 21 Railway Lab
Alice Adams Son 12 Scholar
Fanny Adams Dau 9 Scholar
Walter Adams Son 6 Scholar
Edith Adams Dau 4
Minnie Adams Dau 1

Children all born Astley St Mary Salop


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« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:39 BST (UK) »


They didn't move far did they?!!!!1

Still in Astley in 1891:

RG12/2108 folio 18 page 3
Poplar Cottage, Astley, Shropshire

William Adams Head Marr 53 General Labourer born Salop Middle
Sarah Adams Wife Marr 50 born Salop Astley
Edith Adams Dau 14 Scholar
Minnie Adams Dau 12 Scholar
Edwin Adams Son 10 Scholar
Herbert Adams Son 7 Scholar
Lizzie Adams Dau 4
Mary Adams Daughter in Law Marr 20 born Cheshire Ellesmere Port


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« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:45 BST (UK) »


and still there in 1901:


William Adams Head Marr 68 Estate Labourer born Shropshire Myddle
Sarah Adams Wife Marr 60 born Shropshire Astley St Marys
Minnie Adams Dau Single 21 Assistant School Mistress born Shropshire Astley St Marys
Edwin Adams Son Single 19 Grocers Porter born Shropshire Astley St Marys
Lizzie Adams Dau Single 14 born Shropshire Astley St Marys


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« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:59 BST (UK) »

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martha 1863(my g.grandmother)-

What was your G Grandfather's name?  If it was Robert Jones then this is the marriage from Free FMD:

Marriage March Quarter 1888

Martha Adams & Robert Jones
District: Atcham (which is the registration district for Astley)
Volume: 6a
Page: 861


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« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 June 06 22:37 BST (UK) »

thanks  everyone...lloydy...marthas husband(my g.grandfather was matthew john roberts born abt 1860 in welshpool..regards allan
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 June 06 22:53 BST (UK) »

lloydy...don`t you think its strange that not one of the family were buried in st marys churchyard...can you find out whether susannah adams ,(whose is the only adams headstone i could find) married one of williams sons..also ,could this be because st marys church may not have been their religion..ie...catholic or protestant...if you know the area ,what religion is st mary`s...i was there whit sunday,but didn`t  think to check what religion it was...thanks...allan
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 06:39 BST (UK) »


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marthas husband(my g.grandfather was matthew john roberts born abt 1860 in welshpool.

The marriage I found wasn't the right then then?!!


I have no idea about St Mary's Church in Astley, but I can certainly find out for you.

It does seem strange that none of your ADAMS family are buried there, but there is the possiblity that they are there but without any headstones.  I know a lot of my father's ancestors are all buried in the Dolhafren Cemetery in Llanidloes but few have headstones because they simply couldn't afford them.

Next time I go to the Shropshire Archives I will check out the Astley Parish Registers for you.  According to their registers list they hold baptisms, marriages, burials, confirmations and banns for Astley.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 22:15 BST (UK) »

thanks very much lloydy,that would be very generous of you..appreciated..regards..allan
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 August 06 11:35 BST (UK) »

lloydy...have received internment list and burial locations for st mary`s astley...you were right ...there are  EIGHT graves with my ancestors in..i now know exactly which plots they are ...thanks for your help...it is very much appreciated....regards...allan
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