sarra
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Annuitant
« on: Sunday 09 July 06 02:02 UTC (UK) » |
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I have come across a few of my ancestors on the 1851 Census. In the column where it says Occupation is listed Annuitant. The ancestors in question were Widows. Could someone please explain what this means.
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sarra
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Thanks for that Rob,
I understood what a Annuitant meant, what I was not too sure of was this. Like my ancestors I have dug up have not been wealthy or for that matter had anything of value to leave. I just wondered where the money came from to pay to their Widows. Perhaps my ancestors were not as poor as I thought. Like back in those days they did not have a Pension from the Government. Did they??.
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sarra
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Rob, Back again - In my first post I mention 1851 Census - so that time frame.
The first Widow was living with her son and family in Lambeth, Surrey. Her son's occupation was Painter (I presume as in house painter) his wife and daughter were Boot Binders.
The second Widow was living in the household of her niece and family in Lambeth, Surrey. The niece's occupation was Laundress her husband's Lighterman. So I'm thinking the Widows husbands were from the Working Class. Perhaps I should try and look for Wills - that may tell me more. A son & daughter from these two households married and migrated to Australia in 1862.
Anymore thoughts?.
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sarra
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Re: Annuitant
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 July 06 07:04 UTC (UK) » |
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Hello Rob, Apologies for the time it has taken to reply to your kind offer.
If you could please find on the 1841 Census - Thomas Edwards born abt 1779 Marlborough Wiltshire, England. He married a Elizabeth Peters in 1796 in Wiltshire. They had a son Thomas born 1811 Wiltshire. I can find the son and his family on the 1841 census living Lambeth, Surrey.
Someone found a Elizabeth Edwards on the 1841 Census she was a patient in the Somerset Hospital in Froxfield - I don't know if she is mine but could be. I have (my) Elizabeth Edwards on the 1851 Census living with her son in Lambeth Surrey - she is listed as a widow.
Perhaps her husband was deceased before the 1841 Census were taken.
Hope you can understand all of this.
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Re: Annuitant
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 July 06 07:28 UTC (UK) » |
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hi all. I am watching with interest your comments on Annuitants as I have come across this also and I thought my ancestors where poor. I am just following up that my widow may have worked for someone with money ???Good luck 
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trish251
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Re: Annuitant
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 July 06 17:06 UTC (UK) » |
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I think the choice for folks when retired was to put pauper or annuitant - and they didn't want to tell the world they were paupers - I have disproved too many things told or written by ancestors to assume that what is on the census must be correct.
Alternatively - although in the 20th century - my grandmother bought a life annuity - she paid 1 shilling a week for many years. I don't think it was worth very much when she eventually received it, but it was an annuity
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Re: Annuitant
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 July 06 03:25 UTC (UK) » |
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babyboomer Wher would I find verseers books and what is ag labs?
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Re: Annuitant
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 July 06 04:43 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Rob
I've learnt not to discount anything  in my family research - I have found a number of folks in almshouses also specifing annuities or independent means and have trouble believing that they all fall into this category.
My grandmother (with the annuity) used to save money when living on a very small govt pension - so I do understand that folks can be very thrifty.
Baby boomer - Ag lab is an agricultural labourer - I would also like to know what a Verseer's book is - I haven't heard the term before.
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