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wildgoose
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1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« on: Sunday 09 July 06 13:06 UTC (UK) »
Can anyone help locate Euphemia STEEDMAN MARTIN on the 1841 &1851 Census.  Tried using Scotlands People and without success.


Name:   Euphemia STEEDMAN
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Birth:   1789   Kinross, Kinross-shire.
Christen:   7 2 1790   Kinross, Kinross-shire.
Death:   20 1 1875   27 Canmore St., Forfar.1
Father:   William STEEDMAN
Mother:   Janet HAY

Spouses:
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1:   James MARTIN
Occupation:   Agricultural labourer
Marriage:   17 5 1812   Inverarity & Methy, Angus2
Children:   Thomas (1817-1883)
   John (1819-)
   Elspeth (1820-1894)


Notes for Euphemia STEEDMAN
1790 OPR recs., Feb 7th, bap. of Euphemia STEEDMAN.  Father William STEEDMAN.  Mother JANET HAY.  Parish Kinross, KRS.
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: East High St.
Census Place: Fofar, ANS.
Euphemia Steedman MARTIN, head, wid., 76, linen winder, KRS, Kinross.
Elizabeth ANDERSON, visitor, unm., 30, linen handloom weaver, ANS, Forfar.
1871 Census: 106 Castle St., Forfar, ANS, Euphemia Steedman MARTIN, boarder Peter FERRIER & daur. Elspeth MARTIN, wid. , 70, FIF, Kinross.



Sources
1. Death cert. No.31
Euphemia MARTIN, wid. James MARTIN, agricultural labourer
d.1875, Jan 20th, 27 Canmore St., Forfar, ANS, age 86. 
f. ---------- STEEDSMAN, town's officer (Kinross). 
m. ----------
cod.paralysis. 
sign.Thomas MARTIN, eldest son, 3 Lappiedub, Forfar.
reg.1875, Jan 22nd, Forfar, ANS
2. OPR Proclamation of Banns & Marriages
1812, May 17th, Inverarity, ANS
James MARTIN & Euphemia STEADSMAN, both in this parish, desired proclamation in order to marriage.  They were afterwards married.
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 July 06 17:54 UTC (UK) »
Hi Wildgoose

Have you tried looking for her under Elspeth or Elizabeth. These names were often interchangeable with Euphemia. Euphie/Euffie was also used as a diminutive in my family.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 July 06 18:48 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for that.  I'll look also thought she may appear under her maiden name if a widow.

Dave
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 10:49 UTC (UK) »
Dear Gadget,

Still no joy with different surnames...this is a very akward brickwall.  Also tried at last known location - ANGUS.
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 12:33 UTC (UK) »
Hi Dave

I'll have a go at them later on today. It's a puzzle - must be somewhere.

DO NOT GIVE UP!

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 13:13 UTC (UK) »
She will be there, hopefully with sp.James MARTIN,  but it could be a mispelt name or wrong age or combination of both.  I thought she may well have reverted to her maiden name of STEEDMAN which has a variety of spellings.  That said I also have come across MARTIN spelt MARTINE.

Many thanks

Dave
ps my gran was a WILDGOOSE
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 13:36 UTC (UK) »
Dave

I refuse to comment on Wildgoose  Cheesy

I've been looking on SP, Freecen and Ancestry for variations on these names but can't find anything remotely like them.

I just don't understand  Huh Euphemia, Euphie, Euffie, Effies, Elspeth, etc. must be there ...................


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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 15:02 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for the help.  The only "clue" I have is that she was born in KINROSS.  I have found this more help then her name or age.  Perhaps she went back home?

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 August 06 14:13 UTC (UK) »
Any joy finding Euphemia MARTIN?
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 31 August 06 14:21 UTC (UK) »
Oh dear  Embarrassed -  Is that a reminder  Roll Eyes I've been to Ireland and done lots of things since 2 August. I don't think i did find her but will have another look.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 31 August 06 14:32 UTC (UK) »
Sorry Embarrassed
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 31 August 06 14:41 UTC (UK) »
The only female Martin in Kinross in the  1841 is a Rachel Martin, 50-54, Portmoak, Ref - 464/4/3

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 31 August 06 15:42 UTC (UK) »
Many thanks for your time.  She will be around somewhere.  The only thing I can think off is a mis-spelt surname, e.g.  the 1851 Forfarshire Census her son Thomas is recorded as Thomas MARTAIN. 

Dave
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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:02 UTC (UK) »
Hi Dave

I've just been having a look at my previous searches onSP and I seem to have tried evey combination of names and didn't manage to come up with anything.

It's obviously either a vey bad transcription error or she didn't get entered - some peopel were missed (as they still are) and sometimes some books go missing or have been destroyed.

Sorry - I have similar cases with the 1841 and 1861 in Wales.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look up
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:16 UTC (UK) »
I still can't understand how she managed to get missed off both the 1841 & 1851 Census.  Also she was married in 1812 and I have only found record of three children:
Thomas b1817
John b1819
Elspeth b1820

There surely must have been  others?

Many thanks once again...

Dave
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