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Cadoret
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Hi falcybe,
I'm sure one of the moderators will give a definitive answer, but could the answer be the difference between the server space the files are using and the total size of the files?
Excuse me if you already know or have discounted this, but files can take up more disk space than their actual size, depending on how the server hard drive has been formatted.
Without going into the technical details (I'd have to Google it to explain it!), if you right-click on a folder in Windows Explorer and choose 'properties', you'll see that there are 2 sizes - "Size", and "Size on disk", and the size on disk is larger than the actual size.
Hope this help,
Graeme
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Hi,
sounds like it wasn't the cause, but as it's now 'fixed' I guess we may never know!
Oh, and re yr other comment, I thought the phpgedview default is for living to be viewed by administrator rights only, but when I uploaded to rootschat I found my dummy user could view living family members & I had to change the config.
And re the ged files download problem, phpgedview advise not to place phpgedview files in the root, but to create a new folder & then restrict the access. I guess you mean that if people guess the folder/file name they can copy it down... or am I missing the point???!!! :-)
Graeme
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falcybe
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Are you sure you wanted to ask, Graeme?:
If you click on here : http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net/phpview/index.php you will see my (current) tree made with phpgedview 3.3.8, with two trees up. There won’t be much info in the address bar at this point.
Next select one of the two trees, Hayden or Lacey
Now look in the address bar and you will see: http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net/phpview/index.php?command=gedcom&ged=arthurfh.ged
or if you chose lacey you will see: http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net/phpview/index.php?command=gedcom&ged=lacey.ged
This tells you the name of my gedcoms and where they are to be found, in phpview/index.
(if you have only one tree then the name of the gedcom is not available doing this and you have to guess it. I bet clever hackers find it very quickly, hmm)
If you now change the URL to say, http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net/phpview/index/lacey.ged and press go, you will have a dialog box popping up asking you if you want to open or save lacey.ged or arthurfh.ged
Don’t worry, I have hidden all my living on the basic geds.
This means that anyone who has put up a tree with the config. to hide the living is scuppered because anyone can download the full gedcom with the living listed. (you wrote Oh, and re yr other comment, I thought the phpgedview default is for living to be viewed by administrator rights only, but when I uploaded to rootschat I found my dummy user could view living family members & I had to change the config.)
Now, reading slowly through the readme’s and installation guides and following what my sister’s brother in law told me I think we have to do the following: Twas he who highlighted the problem for me.
Level 0 The server for rootschat = the harddisk = rootschat’s root
Level 1 http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net = see above = my root, holding the phpview folder.
level 2 myroot/phpview = phpgedview is here
level 3 level 2/index = the gedcoms are here
The installation guide, 2.5 Security and good manners, says we should place the gedcoms at the same level as my level 1 which is the level holding the PhpGedView. In other words we need to access the area accessed when we applied for our web space! Little hiccup at this point, looking at my URL for the tree we notice straight away that I don’t have an URL for my URL. I don’t know where it is on the server’s computer so how do we put the index there???
If I have made a pig’s ear of section 2.5 then please correct but I do know my sister’s bro-in-law had to follow similar procedures for his tree on his private site hosted elsewhere.
My sister’s bro-in-law says to run Telnet with WinXP and move /phpview/index up two levels. the command would be: (from windows) Start/run/cmd/enter. In the new window type telnet arthurfhayden.rootschat.net (if that is my ftp server name which it seems to be from my records), then again arthurfhayden.rootschat.net which is my user name and then xxxx which is of course my password (as it appears on the screen lol  ). Last but not least, move /phpview/index ../index/, the two dots meaning up two levels.
Problems arising from this.
1 would that be allowable on the site?
2 sometimes the index (other folders moved with this method) disappears (up its own orifice?  ) so best to make a copy.
I have not tried this yet as I wasn’t clear when I first asked about n° 1 problem at the beginning of June, so didn’t receive an answer and now I am upgrading to version 4 so would do everything with that.
Hopefully crystal clear now,
falcybe
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falcybe
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Hello Berlin-Bob and Graeme and everyone else with an interest in this subject,
In an earlier post I said I uploaded V.4 alongside V.3. Complete failure! So I deleted everything, both versions, leaving me with nothing at all.
Then I ftp'd V.4 back up to rootschat, using the original folder structure. (http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net/phpview/V.4)
Then after I chodded 777 practically everything (see below), I "addressed" my IE browser to http://arthurfhayden.rootschat.net/phpview/upgrade33-40.php and it worked, after a fashion. I had 2 trees left when I upgraded; hayden and lacey. I have had to re-import several times to get rid of many errors and I'm still tweaking. Then I had several goes at creating a new tree: falconer. I managed at one stage to knock out a perfectly good ged with an empty string!!!!. Anyway, I re-uploaded the gedcom and now it works best of all.
So, it seems that to get V.4 working on rootschat it is necessary to have V.3.xxx working and then overwrite it with V.4. I would like to point out here that I have always used MySql because I like databases.
I kid you not about chodding everything that moves! In version 3 all I had to permit were the index folder and config.php. In version 4 I'm getting "can't open/read" messages all over the shop, and so I 777 each file in turn until I get the message "OK" or words to that effect. Oh lovely computers! lol.
I shall now start looking at "remote linking"
Cheers,
falcybe
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Cadoret
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Hi Falcyb,
I did read and was interested in your post, didn't reply as I didn't really have anything to add & didn't want to clog up the forum!
As I mentioned in a previous post, version 4 is a recent release, and it would seem that upgrading is not for the faint-hearted. :-)
Amd I would add that for anyone for whom keeping living relatives' details secret is important, it might be best to remove living members from their gedcoms before uploading. At least until the position on phpgedview/server confidentiality is clarified!
Graeme
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falcybe
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Hello Gordon,
It all seems to be a bit hit and miss (not enough hand-holding for beginners so we have to learn as we go along which isn't a bad thing) so when I first succeeded in getting everything working (with mysql) in version 3 I wrote myself a crib sheet should I ever need to start again from the beginning or should my sister ever want to know.
I have just made this into a pdf so can join it to this post. I have replaced personal info like logons and passwords with xxxxxxx. As you have got as far as you said you did in your post, reading my crib sheet should make a lot of sense to you. It will either tell you that you have done everything right and you have a problem I cannot help with or it will give you a pointer or 2 in the right direction. Being a crib sheet, I have made notes all over the place to remind me of pitfalls at various stages, eg: NB: underlines, not dots where a name looks similar (arthurfhayden(dot)rootschat(dot)net or arthurfhayden (underline)rootschat(underline)net for the database) this is very important.
Anyway, read all the other posts from Berlin Bob and Graeme "Cadoret" especially his links and others posts too. The answer is in these posts somewhere.
If all else fails, find version 3, create everything with that and then overwrite the phpGedView with version 4. The Database will not be affected/amended/harmed by the update. A bit of a bind but not too much work.
If anyone can improve on my pdf crib sheet then please do. Perhaps attach links to all the guides?
Good luck,
falcybe
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RootsChatOpenViewing.pdf
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