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Jimbo of Canada
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My Great grandfather JOHN GEDDES b. 1844-46 Buckie d. May 1, 1938, buried at Hillhead cemetery, m. Jan.14, 1871 to HELEN SPALDING b.1849-52 Tannadice, Forfar, had 11 children: Helen, Anne, Isabella, John, James, Elizabeth Jane, John, George, Mary, Alexander and Jesse. They were born in Boyndie and Fordyce. Jesse was my grandmother.
This is as far back as I have info.
I am trying to find John's parents or any of his brothers and sisters.
Hoping someone recognizes some of these names.
Jimbo
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Renfrewshire - McGill
Dms - Proudfoot,Marchbank,Bell,Beattie,Millar,
Dickson,Cumming,Halliday,Colvin,Geddes,Tod
Banffshire - Geddes,Spalding,Flett,Duthie,Milne,Wallace
Ontario - McGill,Weir,Herrick,Lessard,
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Gadget
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Hi Jimbo
The Scotlands People web site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk has his death cert:
GROS Ref - 164-010052
Rathven, Buckie
1 May 1938, 5.00 a.m
John Geddes, 93, carter (retd), widower of Helen Spalding
Parents - John Geddes, Carter, (dec) and Ann, maiden surname Dow
Cause of death - senility
Informant - James Geddes, grandson
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Jimbo of Canada
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Hi Gadget,
Thanks for the info. This fills in another part of my lineage. I had a John and Ann living at 38 High St. in Buckie and Geddes families all living at various homes along High Street but couldn't put them together as being of the same family.
Now I have to try and find both John & ( Ann )'s parents, and John & ( Helen ) 's brothers and sisters.
My wife and I are planning a trip to Scotland next year. I want to check out both my mother's side ( Geddes and Proudfoot ) and my father's side (McGill of Renfrewshire ) . Hopefully I can get some more info in person at various places as well as see where they lived.
Scotland's a long way from Calgary, Canada.
Again, thank you very much for filling in a missing link.
James
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Renfrewshire - McGill
Dms - Proudfoot,Marchbank,Bell,Beattie,Millar,
Dickson,Cumming,Halliday,Colvin,Geddes,Tod
Banffshire - Geddes,Spalding,Flett,Duthie,Milne,Wallace
Ontario - McGill,Weir,Herrick,Lessard,
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Gadget
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Hi James
Happy to help. I know Canada fairly well -was in Ontario 1968-9 Some of my D & G collateral kin also settled there in the early 1830s and I have some wonderful letters and documents about them.
It might be worth your while taking out a subscription to Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk . All the OPRs are there - no deaths though  and the official registrations are fantastic.
You might also like to read Pam's piece on researching Scottish records - a good account of what you can find - remotely:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
Cheers
Gadget
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Little Nell
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Just to help a wee bit more, here is the 1881 census information:
Little Auchmillie, Fordyce, Banff
GROS 153/1 ED 5 p1
John Geddes Head M 35 b Buckie, Banff Agricultural Labourer
Hellen Geddes wife M 29 b Tannadice, Forfar
Hellen Geddes daughter 11 b Boyndie, Banff Scholar
Ann Geddes daughter 9 b Fordyce, Banff Scholar
Isabella Geddes daughter 5 b Boyndie, Banff scholar
James Geddes son 3 b Fordyce, Banff
Elizabeth Geddes daughter 1 b Fordyce, Banff
I wonder if this is John's parents?
High Street Rathven, Banff
GROS 164 ED 5 p15
John Geddes Head M 62 b Rathven, Banff Carter & Feuer
Ann Geddes wife M 63 b Buckie, Banff
Mary I. Geddes daughter 20 Buckie, Banff Net worker ( I think this should be Mary J - birth for a Mary Jane shown on the IGI)
Alexander Winchester grandson U 17 b Buckie, Banff Ironmongers Apprentice
George Cumming grandson 7 b Buckie, Banff scholar
Jeanie Davidson granddaughter 1 b Buckie, Banff
John Keir Boarder U 25 b Keith, Banff saddler
Catherine Coutts Boarder U 68 b Carmichael, Banff Pauper
If so, then the implication is that John had at least three sisters! There are two brothers listed on the IGI, both born after civil registration began in 1855.
Nell
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Gadget
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Hi James
Do you have any idea when Helen died (obviously before 1938)? I could see if we could find her parents too.
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Found it:
GROS Ref- 164-000152
18th December 1916, 5am, Farquhar's Lane, High St, Buckie
Helen Geddes, wife of John Geddes,carter, aged 67
Parents - John Spalding, farm grison (dec) and Ann, maiden surname Wallace (dec)
Cause - chronic valvular disease of the heart - acute
Informant - James Geddes, son, 35 High Street, Buckie
I knew that there was something about your posting - I have a Scottish Spalding (Jean) as an ancestor!
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Jimbo of Canada
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Hi Gadget and Nell and Russell,
First of all, the 1881 census is right on. I also do have a son John b. July 21,1873 d. in infantcy. Jesse (my grandmother) b. June 21, 1882, another John b. Sept. 1884 d. unknown, George, b. Apr.11,1886 (emigrated to Washington DC ) d. date unknown, Alexander b. Apr. 14, 1893 d. 1953 and Mary d. infant.
Secondly, I have Cummings' in my Proudfoot line as well. It's going to be fun finding out these sisters and brothers names and matching them with Winchesters, Cummings, and Davidsons. A good question would be : " where are the grandkids parents and why are the kids living with John and Ann " ? The family really branches out with all these children.
As for Helen Spalding, I didn't have any info on her parents. My mother, Helen Spalding Proudfoot McGill was named after her. My grandmother, Jesse Geddes married Robert Proudfoot and emigrated to Toronto Canada. Gadget, does any of your lineage match up with John and Ann Spalding ?
Russell, I checked the Port Gordon site, and I can't go back any further yet beyond John Geddes and Ann Dow until i find out his parents names and if they were from this same area or PG although its so close.
Again, I want to thank all of you for all this great help.
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Renfrewshire - McGill
Dms - Proudfoot,Marchbank,Bell,Beattie,Millar,
Dickson,Cumming,Halliday,Colvin,Geddes,Tod
Banffshire - Geddes,Spalding,Flett,Duthie,Milne,Wallace
Ontario - McGill,Weir,Herrick,Lessard,
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Ann Dow parents James Doe(Dow) and Margaret Geddes
James d1 Sep 1843 and Margaret d 10 Sep 1855 Rathven
John Geddes (husband of Ann) parents John Geddes and May (Marjorie) Milne and he died 2 Mar 1903 at 38 High St Buckie
Hope this helps
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Jimbo of Canada
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Hi Swimmer,
Thanks for the info on Ann's parents. I had the info on John and May. Apparently most of the Geddes family lived on High Street in Buckie during the latter part of their lives.
I wonder if Margaret Geddes was a distant cousin or just happened to have the same last name.
I just found out that Marjory "May" Milne was born June 13, 1796 in Bellie, (parents john Milne and Isobel Scott) married John Geddes on Nov.16, 1817 at Bellie.
I'm now trying to find out how many other children they had besides John b. Dec.3,1818.
If you come across anything more on this please let me know.
Jim
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Renfrewshire - McGill
Dms - Proudfoot,Marchbank,Bell,Beattie,Millar,
Dickson,Cumming,Halliday,Colvin,Geddes,Tod
Banffshire - Geddes,Spalding,Flett,Duthie,Milne,Wallace
Ontario - McGill,Weir,Herrick,Lessard,
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I didn't have the info on May Milne. As for Margaret Geddes I often wondered about that too. My husband descended from Isabella ca 1818 (dau of John and May Milne) who marr Peter Gordon.
Other children of John and May wereMay (Marjory) ca 1826, William ca 1822 and Elizabeth ca 1836. These 3 went to Aberdeen and died there - none of them married.
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Had another look at my notes
Margaret Geddes aged 76 when she died in 1855 and buried with husband in Rathven cemetery.
Did you know that there were 2 lots of Geddes one lot were fisherfolk and our lot were farmfolk and they don't seem to mix.
James Dow aged 65 in 1843.
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Jimbo of Canada
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Hi Swimmer,
Was just checking the IGI index and I couldn't find anything on Isabella and the other kids. Only records I've found are my GG Grandfather John Geddes b. 1818, and his parents John Geddes and Marjory Milne, who are my GGG grandparents.
Where did you find Isabella and the other kids birthdates?
How are you doing on the Geddes line?
Jim
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Renfrewshire - McGill
Dms - Proudfoot,Marchbank,Bell,Beattie,Millar,
Dickson,Cumming,Halliday,Colvin,Geddes,Tod
Banffshire - Geddes,Spalding,Flett,Duthie,Milne,Wallace
Ontario - McGill,Weir,Herrick,Lessard,
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I have transcriptions of the death certs of Isabella, May, William and Elizabeth which gives their ages and parents. I think a lot of the Geddes were Catholic which is possibly why there are no christenings on the IGI. They are buried in South Division 13 Lair 22 at St Peter,s cemetery in Aberdeen Also buried in this lair but not on tombstone is James Thomson husband of Magdalene Milne (parents Matthew Milne and Magdalene Milne ms Milne) Question - Was Magdalene related to our May who married John Geddes? I imagine so somehow.
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