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alveleyhistorian
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Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« on: Friday 14 July 06 18:31 BST (UK) »

Hi there,
Can anyone possibly help me with this brickwall.
When I was a child we were taken to visit elderly relatives Violet and Clifford Elsmore in Rubery.
Violet was my blood relative. But in what way I was never told.
So it's time to solve the mystery !
All that I know is that Violet was born 27th June 1914 and her husband Clifford Basil Elsmore was born about 1919. They both died in 2002. (Death's registered Bromsgrove)
I am interested to find out Violet's maiden name and date of marriage to Clifford.
Any help or advice much appreciated
alveleyhistorian


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Dave Francis
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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 July 06 19:14 BST (UK) »

As you don't sound sure about Clifford's DOB ...

Death Registration:

Clifford Basil ELSMORE
b. 30 Jan 1919 (age 82)
death registered Jan 2002
in Bromsgrove


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 July 06 20:01 BST (UK) »

Clifford appears to have married twice ....

Clifford B ELSMORE m. Marjorie J DALRYMPLE
March qtr 1940
Lichfield vol 6b p1189

Clifford B ELSMORE m. Violet STEWART
June qtr 1950
Birmingham vol 9c p698

Potential birth registrations:

Violet M(?) STEWART
Mothers maiden name YOUNG
June qtr 1914
Carlisle vol 10b p1191(?)

Violet STEWART
Mothers maiden name EVANS
Sept qtr 1914
Birmingham vol 6d p524

Violet E E STEWART
Mothers maiden name SMITH
Sept qtr 1914
Wandsworth vol 1d p1453


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 July 06 20:38 BST (UK) »

Quote from: Dave Francis on Friday 14 July 06 20:01 BST (UK)

That's wonderful ! It's violet stewart with mothers maiden name was Evans !
Very much appreciated

So Leah Evans married (that's news to me !)
I wonder when she got married ?

Any help much appreciated


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 July 06 22:03 BST (UK) »

Hi there

Had a look through the marriage index 1910-1914 but didn't spot anything.

Are you sure it was Leah? When was she born? (Might indicate earliest year of marriage.)

Dave


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 July 06 08:58 BST (UK) »

Quote from: Dave Francis on Friday 14 July 06 22:03 BST (UK)

Hi there

Had a look through the marriage index 1910-1914 but didn't spot anything.

Are you sure it was Leah? When was she born? (Might indicate earliest year of marriage.)

Dave

Hello Dave,
Thank you for your help. It's very much appreciated
Yes, she is definatley Leah's daughter.
Leah's details are -
Leah Evans born 29th November 1886, christened 13th October 1889 Birmingham –daughter of Pamela Matilda Evans
The plot thickens, I will phone my sister tonight to try and find a bit more info.
It's one of those situations where you wished you had listened through key holes a bit more when you were a child ! Wink

Best Wishes,
alveleyhistorian


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 July 06 10:41 BST (UK) »

Hi,
There is a marriage for a Leah Evans - Samuel Stewart under the same registration for

<Birmingham 6d 319 Dec qtr, 1904>

Too early???

Regards

Joburg


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 July 06 11:04 BST (UK) »

Quote from: Joburg on Saturday 15 July 06 10:41 BST (UK)

Hi,
There is a marriage for a Leah Evans - Samuel Stewart under the same registration for

<Birmingham 6d 319 Dec qtr, 1904>

Too early???

Regards

Joburg

Looks a big possibilty !
Leah had a cousin named samuel Stewart !
Samuel was born about 1878

Any help tracing their dates of death would be much appreciated.
Many thanks to everyone for their help.


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 July 06 11:48 BST (UK) »

Hi,
You could look for the deaths on ancestry.co.uk on the GRO Indexes if its still free!

Regards

Joburg


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Re: Clifford & Violet Elsmore, Rubery
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 July 06 12:01 BST (UK) »

Hello again

Can't see Samuel or Leah on the NBI or in the (searchable) GRO deaths index for 1984-2004 - but that's no great surprise.

Best bet would be to register a guest account at Ancestry and then trawl through the deaths indexs from 1914 onward.
http://www.ancestry.co.uk

Just click on the "England & Wales, BMD Index" link and take it from there.

Cheers
Dave

PS - Yes it's still free! Cheesy


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