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Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« on: Sunday 16 July 06 08:17 BST (UK) »

Hello Rutti,
Thanks for all that information with all the websites relating to South Africa.  I have been through them all.  However, the Genealogy World website gave a list of British Settlers - i.e. Surname List with numbers relating to "Page".  Esme Bull - Aided Immigration from Britain to South Africa 1857-1867, transcribed by Ellen Stanton - I have found some names which I think may be relevant but how on earth do I check those Pages.  There is no link at all.  I wondered if you were able to shed some light on it for me.

Many thanks
Cornishpasty
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BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 July 06 09:31 BST (UK) »

Hi there
Who are you looking for - I have access to other databases as well. I think there was a Cornish migration scheme to Kimberley. Let me see what I can find for you - as much detail as possible.
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 July 06 10:17 BST (UK) »

Hello Tutti,
I am looking for William Martin UREN married to Ella Mary WILLIAMS who emigrated from Cornwall to South Africa in the 1800's.

Thanks
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BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 July 06 12:54 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I wonder if you could help me aswell.

I am looking for James Brewer who emigrated to South Africa between 1881 and 1891 (He was on the Cornish census for 1881 but not for 1891). He was from St Ive, Liskeard, Cornwall and was born in 1865. He was a miner in Cornwall and became a Gold Miner in South Africa. He had returned home by 1896 as he was married in Cornwall in that year. But I believe he returned once or twice more to South Africa, before he died in 1911 (in Cornwall).

I hope this information might help in locating my great grandfather.

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Warhurst - Manchester
Brewer - Liskeard (Cornwall)/Witheridge (Devon)
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Trevethan - Kenwyn/St Pinnock
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 20:16 BST (UK) »

Hello Tutti,
 I am looking for William Martin UREN married to Ella Mary WILLIAMS who emigrated from Cornwall to South Africa in the 1800's.

Thanks
Cornishpasty


Esme Bull's book details the following UREN emigrants to the Cape

Enoch James UREN, Age 25, Currier, To - CT(Cape Town), From Cornwall, Aboard the ship " Edward Oliver", Date : September 1858
Louisa UREN, Age 23
Mary UREN, Age 48, Laundress, To - Son E.J. UREN, 139 Long Street CT, From Cornwall, Aboard the ship " Jalawar", Date : December 1859
William UREN, Age 18, Farm Labourer, To Blatchford, Knorr Hoek
Richard UREN, Age 16, Blacksmith
Elizabeth UREN, Age 14
Thomas UREN, Age 4, Son of E.J. UREN

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ENG - Bath, Blacker, Brockman, Brook, Bundock, Cains, Davenport+, Earle, Edmonds^,Fletcher, Hinds, Holehouse, Holliday+, Jackson*, Laver+, Leach*,Litt^, Oxenham, Pirie*, Radford, Robinson, Staples*, Starkey+, Tarr*, Toye, Warner*, Whiffen, White, Wooley, Wright
IRE - Barnes, Caples, Hurst, McNamara, Quirk, Ryan, Towell, Wilson
SCOT - Craig, Davidson, Hervie, Kerr, McCallum, McFarlane, Reid, Robinson, Thorburn, Wright

* 1820 to Cape of Good Hope
^ 1841-1853 to Vict, Aus
+ 1860's to QLD, Aus
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 07:22 BST (UK) »

Leanne,
Thanks so much for your reply.  Sounds interesting.  I am waiting on more info from a rellie in South Africa and then I will be able to check if these are my Urens.  I appreciate your help. 

Take care.

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BAKER - Cornwall
BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 07:42 BST (UK) »

Most interesting - I have a nephew who is interested in his Cornish descent in South Africa. His name is Friggens. They were also miners - does that name appear on any of those lists?
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa.
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 07:54 BST (UK) »

I don't see the name listed ... sorry Hackstaple.
cheers
Leanne
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IRE - Barnes, Caples, Hurst, McNamara, Quirk, Ryan, Towell, Wilson
SCOT - Craig, Davidson, Hervie, Kerr, McCallum, McFarlane, Reid, Robinson, Thorburn, Wright

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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 August 06 09:59 BST (UK) »

Thanks for looking, Leanne.
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa.
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 August 06 06:28 BST (UK) »

Leanne,
I can confirm that the information you gave me above are my descendants.  I'm so thrilled and thank you for your wonderful help.
I am still awaiting more details from rellies in South Africa, but I'm ecstatic, to say the least. Grin.  At last, I have something concrete to go on.

Regards
CP
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BAKER - Cornwall
BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 August 06 08:17 BST (UK) »

I have now been able to ascertain, through research, (and those wonderful people in the Chatroom  Kiss - thank you, thank you), that Enoch Warren James UREN died in 1847, as I could not work out why he didn't show up on the Passenger List with Mary, his wife.  I subsequently found out that he and Mary had other children and I am guessing that because they were the older children, they were married and/or decided not to travel to South Africa.

I would love to know if anyone can link up these particular Uren's who either stayed in Cornwall or moved elsewhere.  They are the older children of Enoch Warren James UREN and Mary UREN (born MARTIN):

Mary UREN born 12 July 1835
John UREN born 6 May 1838
Grace Martins UREN born 25 December 1831

Look forward to any information.

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BAKER - Cornwall
BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 August 06 13:16 BST (UK) »

Wonderful, wonderful news.  Martywillis, one of our members, has been such a tremendous help, as has our whoopzadaizi too.  They have been instrumental in helping me find a couple of cousins.  1st cousins too, I might add.

I just wanted to say a very special thank you to Rutti for the Esme Bull information and to Marty for all her wonderful help.  Thanks to Daizi too and to everyone of those wonderful PEEPS in the Chatroom - what a great bunch.  I will keep you updated with more information about the tree when I have heard from the other links (cousins).

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BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 September 06 02:51 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I wondered if you could help me too.

I am looking for  Richard Eddy born Pendeen, Cornwall 10th July 1871, he is not on any census 1891 or 1901 in the UK
I know  that he was a gold miner from his death certificate in 1902 but I admit I don't know where. Embarrassed

Regards Amber.

 
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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
PEMBROKE: Bradnum. Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:  Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum. Helsdon. Cork. Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON: Mallett. Acford, Kidston. Short. Lover. Dampier, Johns, Edwards,Telford. Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL: Eddy. Thomas. Maddern. Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten, Curtis. Tregenza,Trebilcock
Warwickshire: Mountney
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 08:09 BST (UK) »

G'day Amber,

I wish I could help you but I haven't the foggiest idea about research.  Everything I've done has been hit and miss and sheer luck.  LOL.  Why don't you pop into the Chatroom.  There are so many wonderful, eager people who will help you.  Just try it and you'd be surprised.  Loads of help in there all the time.   They're all extremely friendly and very helpful too.

Hope to see you there soon.

CP
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BAKER - Cornwall
BARRABLE - UK and South Africa
BROPHY - Kilkenny in Ireland,  South Africa
CORIN,  MARTIN, NICHOLAS, WILLIAMS  - Cornwall,  South Africa
EDWARDS - Wales,  South Africa
JAMES - Cornwall, London
KENT - UK, Ireland and South Africa
KLISKEY - Cornwall, South Africa, NZ, USA, Australia
KOWLESKEY or KOULESKEY - Russia (Kalingrad)
PERRY - Cornwall and Australia
UREN - Cornwall, South Africa, USA
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Re: Cornish immigrants to South Africa
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 11:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Cp,

Funny you should say that!  Cheesy

When closing down one night I dropped the keyboard and landed up in the Chatroom   Shocked Huh ....what a lovely welcome I had from the people there.

Really friendly bunch Grin

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
PEMBROKE: Bradnum. Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:  Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum. Helsdon. Cork. Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON: Mallett. Acford, Kidston. Short. Lover. Dampier, Johns, Edwards,Telford. Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL: Eddy. Thomas. Maddern. Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten, Curtis. Tregenza,Trebilcock
Warwickshire: Mountney
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