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William Henry Dash [London ]
« on: Friday 15 June 07 03:16 BST (UK) »

 Huh
William Henry Dash of 42 Drummond St: Euston Square was a Hatter & Hosier , with his wife Susanna Dash [ nee Day ] & they married 07..09.. 1859:
can anyone verify & validate please
1/  was this their residence..
2/ was this also their business address
3/ Did Euston station buy up this property.
4/ what is now at this address.

Regards , Owen
wet & cold in Sydney Australia,
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Re: William Henry Dash [London ]
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 June 07 10:28 BST (UK) »

Did you know that in 1839 there is a William Dash, hatter, at 118 Tottenham Court Road.

Most people lived over the shop in those days, unless they were very rich.  Does it give this address on the marriage cert?

On this site for finding a postcode from an address http://www.allies-computing.co.uk/find-postcode.html the lowest number given is 94.  I wonder if the earlier numbers have been knocked down and has become Schafer House(try a search) which is student accomodation.

It is always worth doing a search for a street in London.  Sometimes you find houses or flats for sale and you can get a good idea of the area.

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Re: William Henry Dash [London ]
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 June 07 11:52 BST (UK) »

1861, RG9/111 58/13
Pancras Wards 5&6
41&42 Drummond Street
Charles Gurden, 66, proprietor of houses, b. City of London
Cassandra, wife, 51, b. St. Mary Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
Jane Dawkins, unmarried, servant, 27, general servant, b. Souldrop Bedfordshire

There doesn't seem to be anyone else living there at the time; I would suspect that normally Charles and Cassandra let rooms in these two houses, it being so close to the station it was probably a good location for a lodging house.

1871 shows it more explicitly as a lodging house (Charles and Cassandra have moved further along Drummond St, btw)
RG10/224 14/22
42 Drummond St, Pancras
Sarah Faulkner, widow, 50, lodging house keeper, b. Sandy Bedfordshire
her boarders:
Louisa Buckensham, unmar. 32, b. Clayton Sussex
Edith St. Clare, unmar, 17, b. Pancras
Charles Edwards, unmar, 27, ploughman b. Sittingbourne, Kent.
Henry Bowen, unmar, 29, clerk in civil service, b. Northampton.

42 Drummond St was uninhabited in 1881.  At 40 there was Charles Bromley, musical instrument maker, and wife Matilda and children.  At 44 there was Walter Graves, plumber, and wife Eliza and children.

In 1891 it is not marked as a lodging house, but seems to have been sublet to various families - Catherine Giomento and her son Giglo, William Tomkins and wife Elizabeth, Elizabeth Norris and four children, and John Woolway.

Can't find it in 1901.  If you look here
 you will hopefully be able to see that Drummond St. used to go up past the station but about half of it has been swallowed up, and the far end on the opposite side of the station appears to have become Doric Way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euston_station - looking at this, Drummond St may have gone around 1962 when the old station was demolished and the building of the new one started.

Did they both have the same address when they got married? If they married in a church, he might have moved into the boarding house temporarily so he would be counted as resident in the same parish as Susanna, thus only having to pay for one set of bans.
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Re: William Henry Dash [London ]
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 June 07 03:51 BST (UK) »

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Hello & thanks to you Sylviaann & Jorose,

I made a  mistake with the address on Drummond Street ,
it should have been number [b]24 not 42

All of your info; has been very helpful and interesting for us as living in Australia makes research rather difficult.

I notice on the marriage cert; of William Henry Dash  & Susanna Day dated 7th Sept.1859 that Williams address was Drummond St: and Susanna's address was Little Brook St. He was listed as a Hatter.
His father was a William Dash [dead] and her father George Day was a coppersmith.
In 1860 6th Sept ; the birth certificate of g.gmother Emma Louise Dash  stated that william Henry Dash was a Hatter & Hosier [master]  and that their address was # 24 Drummond street Euston Square
Would this new information help determine where # 24 Drummond St was ? and help find some thing out about their family 's ?
Regards Owen.& Ann






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Re: William Henry Dash [London ]
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 June 07 12:19 BST (UK) »

They're at 24 Drummond street in 1861! I couldn't see them before - probably because the surname looks like 'Dask'.

William H. Dask, head, 38, hattier & Hosier, St. Pancras Middlesex
Susannah, wife, 18, b. Stowmarket Suffolk
Louisa, dau, 7mo, b. St. Pancras Middlesex
Walter, brother, single, 23, carpenter, b. St. Pancras Middlesex

(There's also a second family at this address, George Attewell, Hackney Cab Driver, wife and two kids).

The best clue to where this was is #25 - which is the site of  'The George'.  James Cartwright, aged 21, licensed victualler, appears to be running it.  Looking at other sources, like the Times, it was probably 'The Royal George', Drummond Street, Euston-Square.  The Royal George was up for auction in 1871, it was 'adjoining the Euston Station' at that time, which might make No. 24 stand opposite the station on the other side of Drummond road.
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Re: William Henry Dash [London ]
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 21:17 BST (UK) »

 William Dash  and Martha Cowley were my ggggrandparentswho lived at 118 Tottenham Court Road
They  seemed to be very wealthy people
They were William Henry Dash's parents and 24 Drummond Street was Martha's house and left in her Will to her family They were Hatters and milliners I can give you more details of the rest of the family and could you let me know more about Emma Louise .
Other children I have found are Louisa b1861 Elizabeth b1864 Helen b1866
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Re: William Henry Dash [London ]
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 August 07 08:17 BST (UK) »

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Hi! Catlady 2,
Thank you so much for responding to our enquiry re- William Henry Dash:  Yes , you seem to have the connection we've been looking for. 
Emma Louise Dash ; eldest daughter of William Henry Dash was my Great Grandmother :  Don't know much before  that except now I know that her grand-parents were William & Martha Dash nee Cowley:   My grandmother's parents  William  Henry Dash & his wife Susanna Dash  nee Day  lived at 24 Drummond Street Euston Square  which was in later years demolished  to make way for  Euston Station , storing area i believe .
Do you have any details of Martha's will ?
Emm Louise  was the eldest child of the family born on September 6th. 1860 in the district of Pancreas ; sub district of Somerstown county of Middlesex.
We don't know how many siblings she had , but do know Elizabeth [Bella ] 1861 & Helen were her sisters :  She was a minor when she married we believe in 1878.  She married a Robert John Morgan who was in the navy , and had 13 children of whom only 6 survived , the eldest was John, and I don't know the order of the others -- Clara ; George ; Frederick ; Ada ; Florence Mabel the youngest who was my grandmother : Florence Mabel born 1894 [b]
Emma Louise was a midwife and delivered Florence Mabel's daughter  Florence May my mother [b][/b][u][/u]
Her husband Robert  John was killed at sea by a boom of the ship striking him . My Grand-mother was about 7or 8 at the time making it 1901 or so.
The marriage of William Henry Dash & Susanna Dash [nee Day ] she was a minor was on sept 7th 1859 in the district of  Pancreas at St Pancreas church. county of Middlesex.
 Hope this helps a little and perhaps you can help me .  We also have a photo of Emma Louise and her birth certificate,
Kind regards,
Ann Powell
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