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NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« on: Thursday 20 July 06 14:33 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for any information on Alfred Nall with wife Ann who are the parents of Sarah Ann Nall born 1845. Please contact me if you know anything about them.
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 July 06 15:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rhodes
I see by your Posts you are new to Rootchat Welcome aboard. If Sarah was born in 1845  and you know which County.You should be able to find her with her Parents on the 1851 Census  that will tell you where the parents were born and their age give or take 3 years? plus more recent ones. If you look on the top of this page you will see a census lookup  request board. So ask for a look up on there.Hope this is of some help

Celia
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 July 06 14:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Celia
Thanks for your suggestion but the problem here is that Salford 1851 census records were badly water damaged and we haven't been able to locate our Nalls though we know they were living in the middle of Salford. We hoped that there might be someone out there who had some pieces in the same puzzle that would help us find a date or place of birth.
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 July 06 20:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I have looked on 1851 Unfilmed for Greengate and Regent Rd., Salford
There is only one Nall listed, Elizabeth 18
There are a number of Nall's in other 1851 Unfilmed census, if you require these, let me know and I will let you have them
But I can find no mention of Alfred, Ann or Sarah Ann

Regards, Dave
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 July 06 23:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rhodes
When you have replied to Dave's post of last Thursday.I will post my findings for Alfred Nall in Salford for you Grin

Celia
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 07:52 UTC (UK) »

First of all thank you to Dave for looking up Nalls for me.  Elizabeth aged 18, silkwinder, living with Mary Honihouse (?), is the only Nall we have found so far in Salford in 1851. We have no evidence that this Elizabeth is part of our family, as we cannot link her in any way.  I would be very pleased to have your info about the other Nalls you have found in 1851.  Our Nalls were in Sheffield in 1841, but we have a Sarah Ann born in Salford in 1845 - it is her and her parents Alfred and Ann we are trying to locate.  Thank you also Celia for your offer of more information - always welcome!
John & Kay
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 16:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rhodes/John & Kay
I have done the best i can with the on line directories not available to me. It has taken longer than i expected but he is a hard man to find Grin. and worth it if i can get a result. In 1850 there is only one Alfred Nall in Salford he was
Alfred Nall a Mechanic living at 14,Pear St Salford.To re-check this i then looked under street names. There wasn't a Pear St Mentioned.I then went back to see if i had the name right( go cross eyed after a bit Grin ) yes i had.So as i often find,Pear Street might be off another long road, it didn't say like most books do.I see these books as postal directories,so it makes sense to me. I have also looked in the 1853 but he does not appear at all in that one.If you think this is your Alfred.Maybe that added info will help Dave locate the family in a census.

Celia
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 17:06 UTC (UK) »

Thanks to Celia I think I've found your family mistranscribed as NIELL. Here is the entry as it appears on the unfilmed Greengate

HO107/2223/Enum Dist 1Z/Page 7/Sched 23
14 Pear Street
Alfred NIELL,Head,M,36,J'yman,Derbyshire Darley Dale
Ann NIELL,Wife,M,36,Yorkshire Sheffield
Joseph NIELL,Son,8,Scholar,Yorkshire Sheffield
Mary NIELL,Dau,8,Scholar,Yorkshire Sheffield
Sarah Ann NIELL,Dau,5,Scholar,Lancashire Manchester
Rachel NIELL,Mother,72,Derbyshire Eckerton
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 19:04 UTC (UK) »

John/Kay
As requested here are the other Nalls I found
1851 Hulme Unfilmed

5 Garner St
Edward Edwards     Head     M   31     Painter(House)     Burton, Westmoreland
Sarah Edwards        Wife      M   40                                      Manchester
Joseph Nall            Stepson  U    17    Labourer in a Mill       Manchester
Dorothy Nall          Stepdau   U    15   Silk Weaver                Manchester
Mary A Owen         Lodger            2                                       Manchester

1851 Ardwick Unfilmed

41 Downing St
William Nall         Head     M    42        Butcher                      Manchester
Jane Nall             Wife      M    37                                   Sutton on Trent, Notts.
Mary Ann Nall      Dau              9        Scholar                        Manchester
John Nall             Son               7        Scholar                       Manchester
Elizabeth Nall      Dau               3                                          Manchester
+ 4 Servants

1851 Deansgate Unfilmed

10 Gaythorn St
James Nall         Head     U     48     Book Keeper in Woolen Mill     Manchester
Thomas Nall     Brother   U     46                Baker                            Manchester
Martha Howarth   Neice   U    18                Servant                         Manchester
Ellen Howarth      Neice           5                Scholar                          Manchester
Henry Howarth    Nephew       2                                                     Manchester

7 Collier Rd
George Nall            Lodger     U   22       Labourer                       Manchester

Hope this helps
Regards, Dave

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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 19:24 UTC (UK) »

Wonderful, Wonderful!  Many thanks to Celia and Dave for unblocking this family for us.  We know this is the correct family as we have the Pear St address on a possible death, which we have been unable to confirm.  The family mistranscribed as NEILL contains our Sarah Ann - my (john's) great-grandmother.
We really appreciate your help - we couldn't have done this from a distance or without the local knowledge.
Best Wishes, 2 Rhodes/John & Kay
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 20:17 UTC (UK) »

Apologies to SKB for not acknowledging you properly.  We had guessed that Nall might be mistranscribed as Hall, but had not thought of looking at Niell.  Many thanks for finding it.
Best Wishes,
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Re: NALL family, Salford pre 1837
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 21:02 UTC (UK) »

                                     


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