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Author Topic: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES FITZ-ERCALD COKE and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.  (Read 2002 times)
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Re: Colonel Jacynth d'Ewes and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 27 July 06 22:47 BST (UK) »

This explains the Suffolk connection !   Shocked

The Times, Monday May 20, 1963, pg 16
Obituary

Colonel Jacynth D'Ewes FitzErcald Coke
CMG, CVO, CBE, who died on Friday
at his home at Woodbridge, Suffolk, was
chief constable of the West Riding in Yorkshire
from 1919 to 1929 and from 1932 to 1937
Chief Constable of West Suffolk. From the latter
year until 1945 he was one of His [sic] Majesty's
Inspectors of Constabulary
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Re: Colonel Jacynth d'Ewes and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 27 July 06 22:55 BST (UK) »

wonder where he lived in Woodbridge...........

a very nice town. Grin Grin
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:13 BST (UK) »

You guys are unbelievable. I had been told that the car was once owned by..... The Chief Constable of Suffolk. I hadn't even started down that route yet.

If you lot ran the country....

Thanks for all the info and research.

Alan
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:23 BST (UK) »

The next known owner of the car was "The Garage" in Walsham le Willows, Suffolk in 1960. I had assumed that there was some information missing, but it's quite possible that the Colonel kept it and it was sold in Suffolk.

Now that I have so much info I can go to the Police and ask if they have anything on the Colonel that I can look at. Might even find a period photo of the car (which is the ultimate goal!).

I can also try and find some living relatives to see if they have any photos.

Brilliant.

Alan
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:29 BST (UK) »




Maybe an email here would give you some information .... worth a shot !!

http://www.walsham-le-willows.org/

Annie  Smiley

I know you're only interested in the car ..... but I would follow the man if I was you - sounds like a fascinating subject !!
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:34 BST (UK) »

I looked at that site and they have a history group - definitely worth a phone call.

The car was sold on in 1968. During it's time in W le W it had the rear half of its body chopped off and replace with a wooden flatbed truck body. It was used as a garage hack!

You never know, they might be able to find me a photo of it in that state - which will probably upset me  Angry

And I will research the man a bit too. He does sound interesting - very much a part of the car's history, especially if he kept it from 1928 to 1960 - that's a LONG time to own a car..
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:37 BST (UK) »

By the looks of this site you could chase his family  back to 1373 !

http://newsite.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/cc4aq/coke02.htm

It has all the names: Sacheverall, Coke, D'Ewes, Jacynth, Fitzherbert

Cheers  Grin
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:47 BST (UK) »

is this the garage


Pj Rudderham
Summer Road Garage Walsham-Le-Willows
Bury St Edmunds Suffolk IP31 3AH
Tel: (01359 259433)
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:48 BST (UK) »


If this car was mine Ambly !! ...... I'd start a RootsChat webpage .... just for this man and his family ..... it would be so cool !!   Grin
and I'd name it .... my car has a pedigree !!

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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 27 July 06 23:57 BST (UK) »

She has a name  Smiley

Annabel.

She was named after the daughter of the man who restored her in the late seventies.

Not sure if that's the right garage, the name's definitely not right. Having said that, how many garages are there in a town that size Smiley

Thanks for that site Ambly.

Alan

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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #25 on: Friday 28 July 06 00:02 BST (UK) »

Wish we could find a picture of the man on the net (we  is lookin') , if not the car - then we could imagine him in the car ! Then  , Aston.. you could even take a snap of the car, and then get Rootschat advise as to how to merge 2 photos so you do end up with him in the car    Grin Grin Grin Not very Authentic tho!   Have you got a website with a picture of a similar car just to whet our automobilic appetites?  

On a more solemn note:
They served  their country well  Sad
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/flight/salpertonwm.html

Cheers AMBLY
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #26 on: Friday 28 July 06 08:27 BST (UK) »

Very few period pictures of this type of car exist. The production figures have been lost, but there are only 11 left (that we know about) worldwide. The only pictures I've found on the net are brochure copies.

Alan
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #27 on: Friday 28 July 06 09:23 BST (UK) »

Now that I know his actual surname a friend found this for me.

From the 1935 copy of Who's Who.

Coke,Col.Jacynth d'Ewes Fitz-Ercald, CMG 1918, CVO 1924, CBE 1927, late RASC; Chief Constable of West Suffolk since 1932; b 1879; m Elizabeth d.of late Albert Waller, of Shannon Grove, Banagher, Ireland; one s. two d. Served South Africa War, 1899 - 1902 (despatches, Queen's medal and 3 clasps, Kings medal and 1 clasp); European War, 1914-18 (despatches, CMG, Legion of Honour) Commander of the Order of the SAviour; retired pay, 1919; Chief Constable of the West Riding of Yorkshire 1919-20; Chief of the British Police Mission to the Greek Govt.,1929-31; His Majesty's Lieutenant for the City of London. Address: Thurston, Suffolk, Clubs: Junior United Service; West Suffolk County.

So now I know where he was in 1901.

Also Thurston is only about 8 miles from Walsham le Willows where the garage is that owned the car next. Quite possible that he sold the car to them direct without any intervening owners.

He certainly sounds like "quite a chap".
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #28 on: Friday 28 July 06 12:34 BST (UK) »

I live across the road from Lady Laura Poole, her father is the Earl of Leicester and he lives at Holkham Hall in Norfolk.

Their family name is Coke (say Cook)

Wonder if any connection ?


SM ...

PS I have not been invited to take tea with the family  Grin
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #29 on: Friday 28 July 06 13:29 BST (UK) »

Interesting thread!

Jacynth Coke is listed in the "Police Index" on the Black Sheep Index site http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/ - it looks like they may have a record of his 1919  application to be Chief Constable....this looks like a useful site but it's new to me.

He's also in this family tree which may be the same as the one already referred to above http://users.adelphia.net/~hwaller/George%20Waller.htm
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