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redkop
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Freddie
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HI everyone,
I have just found out my gt gt granma's name was Eliza Whittaker, she was born abt 1846 in Tullamore. She left Ireland to come to Liverpool. She met and married John Mclennan in 1869, and had 9 children as far as I know.
Can someone help me find her. Which county is Tullamore in? Does anyone know of any Whittakers from that area?
Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Red 
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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saddles
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Posts: 4820
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The Griffiths Valuation Index shows only one Whittaker if the parish
of Kilbride which is the parish for Tullamore.
Gtiffiths Valuation (1847-1864)
WHITTAKER, Michael
County: Offaly/Kings
Parish: Kilbride
Location: Kilcoursey (Townland)
Mike.
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redkop
RootsChat Aristocrat
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Freddie
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Hi Pat and Saddler,
thank you for your information, this will give me plenty to do !!
I will keep you posted on how I do.
Thanks again for taking the time,
Regards,
Red
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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redkop
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Freddie
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Hi Saddler and Pat,
I don't think the Whittaker in the Griffiths Valuation Index is the correct one I'm looking for. It could however be a relation. I would have thought Whittaker an unusual name in Ireland. I apologise if i'm wrong on that one!
On Eliza's wedding certificate, it gives her fathers name as James, he was a farmer. Maybe, Michael and James were brothers?
If they had moved, where is the next town they could have moved to? (!)
Thanks again,
Red
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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saddles
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Hi red.
The only James Whittaker in Offaly is as follows [see below] and
it is worth keeping in mind that marriage and birth/baptism were usually recorded in the spouse/mother parish, which may be an
adjacent or close parish.
Mike.
Whittaker, James
County: Offaly/Kings
Parish: Barr
Location: Townparks
Town: Town of Birr
Address: Eden Street
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redkop
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Freddie
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Hi Saddler,
Eliza and John were married in a Presbyterian church in Liverpool. Did they have such a thing in Ireland then? Would she, or could she have changed her religion? I would have presumed she would be Roman Catholic at birth.
Is the parish of Kilbride far from the parish of Barr. I don't have the district Eliza was born in, only that it was Tullamore. If not, it looks like Michael could have been James's brother, and James went to live in his wife's parish?
Thanks again for your time,
Red
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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Pat Reid
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Hi Red:
Yep, they had Presbyterians in Ireland back then!
Another town in Offaly not terribly far from Tullamore is Edenderry. I did a little looking around and came up with Whittakers in that area. You may want to do some "googling" using variations and see what develops.
Here are some items:
http://www.curiousfox.com/history_Ire/clare.lasso
Looking for the family of Robert Baird b.1860, gardener to the Bishop of Clare at the Bishop's residence, Clarisford. He met and married Elizabeth Whittaker from Edenderry, Co. Offaly, who worked in the Bishop's household. They married on 8/3/1887 in Killaloe and had 8 children. One of these, Harriet May Baird married Emmanuel Victor Nelson in Liverpool in 1913 and were my husband's grandparents. Any info on any members of this family gratefully received. Sue
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/IRISH%20DEATHS%201888.html
Irish Death Notices
Transcribed from the "American-Irish" newspaper
Week ending August 11, 1888
WHITTAKER***July 15 at the residence of her brother-in-law Robert SAUNDERSON, M.D. Edenderry, King's county, Alicia, eldest daughter of the late James WHITTAKER, Edenderry.
Hope this helps.
Pat
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redkop
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Freddie
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Hi Pat and Saddler,
thanks Pat for your latest info.
I have been talking to a friend, who has a special interest in Irish history. He made the suggestion that Whittaker originates from Norfolk, and that these Whittakers could have been transplants.
What do you think?
Red
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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saddles
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Posts: 4820
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Red.
Most certainly it is possible that your Whittaker's originated
in England if not in Norfolk.
during the priod of english rule may english families moved
to ireland to take up land, the intent being to populate
Ireland with as many english as possible in the hope that
eventually english would be the norm.
Mike.
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Pat Reid
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Hi Red:
I agree with Saddler about the English origins. Actually, a Whittaker was one of the Cromwellian adventurers.
"To finance Cromwell's campaign to put down the "rebellious" Irish who just
could not accept English rule, Parliment devised a scheme where every person
who contributed was to receive estates and manors of 1000 acres , and lands
proportionatly for less sums."
http://ahd.exis.net/monaghan/advntrs.htm
Here is a Whittaker site which could prove useful. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3741/fellow_whitaker_researchers.htm Broken Link
Good luck,
Pat
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redkop
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Freddie
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hi,
is there any way I can find out if James and the family came over with Eliza. Everyone I've spoken to says there wouldn't be any records. they will have just got on the ferry !!
Any ideas would be welcome.
Thanks,
Red
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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redkop
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Freddie
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just thought I would update you with my research on this family. Well, I have hit a brick wall. I can't seem to go any further. I will keep trying, and hopefully something will turn up. One day I hope to visit where they came from, and maybe that will help. But, until then I have to keep trying from this end.
I just wanted to thank you all for helping me. Cheers,
Red 
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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redkop
RootsChat Aristocrat
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Freddie
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From the Griffiths Valuation Index, I have found my 3xgt Grandfather, James Whittaker, living in Eden St., Town of Birr, Co Offaly/Kings.
Is there a way to find out who else lived at this address with him?
Thanks,
Red
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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs
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