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Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« on: Sunday 30 July 06 10:36 BST (UK) »
Can some kind soul help me find any MALVERNS living in Malvern Worcestershire?
My sister in law had the surname Malvern and it has always been a source of interest for the family. I know her mpther was Maud. (I've done 1881 on line.)

I dont want to ask her directly as I hope to give her a famliy tree however small as a surprise for her 65th wedding anniversary.

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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 July 06 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike

On the 1891 the only Malvern born and living in Malvern is

Edith Emma b 1877 she is a servant in Gt Malvern.

Are you looking for Mauds family ?

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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 July 06 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike

Your sister-in-law's maiden name was MALVERN - is that right?

If you search the complete BMD indexes, you can find her mother's maiden name by looking for S-i-L's birth, assuming she was born after 1911.

You say you have found Maud in 1881: if you post what you have here we can perhaps trace her family back, but that won't be MALVERN presumably?

You can trace S-i-L's parents marriage in the indexes once you know Maud's maiden name.

Let us know what you can (withour revealing the details of living people) and we will try to help.

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 July 06 13:39 BST (UK) »
S-I-L maiden name was Malvern.

Her mother's maiden name was Maud Bannister

A Maud Malvern appears in the 1881 census, I got a bit mixed up there!!!!!

I expect I shall have to ask her for more details, but that will spoil the surprise.

Please do not spend too much time on this.
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 July 06 13:54 BST (UK) »
There are a couple of MALVERN families in 1901: heads are CP MALVERN and Fredrick MALVERN.  Both have sons at home that might have married Maud.

From what you know of the family, can you find a marriage in the full indexes?  It is not on freebmd, so I am assuming it was around 1920?  The S-i-L's marriage in 1941?

You don't say how much time you have to complete this task?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 July 06 21:15 BST (UK) »
I  gleaned a little info without beeing sussed, Sister in laws Father was Herbert William MALVERN.

Marriage date for s i l is correct, well done.

I have about 3 weeks, for research, my personal situation at present keeps me at home most of the time so I do appreciate your efforts in helping me.
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 July 06 21:37 BST (UK) »
OK we had better get a move on then!

Here is the parents' marriage:

Herbert William MALVERN

Alice Maud M BANNISTER

Upton on Severn

Sep 1908

Vol 6c  Page 461

Off to look for 1901 census now

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 July 06 21:53 BST (UK) »
Birth

Herbert William MALVERN

Mar 1886

Martley, Worcestershire

Vol 6c  Page 300


Birth

Alice Maud M BANNISTER

Mar 1884

Bromyard, Herefordshire

Vol 6a  Page 520


1901 census RG13/2775/126/7.

I love this!!   Cheesy

Fredrick MALVERN H Wid 39 - bottler mineral waters - Worcs Gt Malvern
Mary dau 18 - housekeeper - do West Malvern
Herbert son 14 - errand boy - do Jukefield?
Fredrick son 10 - do
Rosa dau 8 - do
Richard son 4 - do

Address: Lower Jukefield (?), Leigh, Worcestershire

Looking to confirm that Alice Maud M's birth is correct - there were 2 others, believe it or not!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 July 06 22:06 BST (UK) »
You are a diamond!

In the past I traced a newspaper cutting for a lass in Australia over several days, so now my "bread cast on the water" is returning three fold so to speak.......

I didnt want you to feel I was all take and no give.

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 July 06 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hey, we know each other well enough by now!  Smiley

Struggling with Alice/ Maud in 1901 - will go to 1891 and see if that helps...

Bear with me!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 July 06 22:27 BST (UK) »
Nope!  We need help here.

Either more clues from the family, or could you contact the registrar to find out Alice/Maud's father's name?

I will check back tomorrow night to see how this is going.

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 July 06 22:43 BST (UK) »
Don't put money on this...

RG12/2070/56/3

Samuel BANNISTER H M 37 - ag lab
Martha W M 39
May dau 10
Maud dau 7
Martha dau 1

All b Cradley, Herefordshire

Address: Shepherd's Cottage, Cradley

(The only one in the vicinity in both 1891 and 1901, but Maud could have moved from further away to marry in 1908)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Malvern - family with surname MALVERN
« Reply #12 on: Monday 31 July 06 09:54 BST (UK) »
Usually the couple married in the parish where the wife lived. e.g. Upton on Severn.

Cradley is the other side of the county, however, I was surprised with how much folk moved about in old times.

Now I have a starting point I must visit the record centre, this is only a few minutes away from where we live. BUT as a carer 24/7 I cant always escape for an hour.
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 July 06 20:40 BST (UK) »
WHOOOOOOOSH!!!!  All the Malverns back to 1791 fall straight into my lap(top). I paid up and looked big on Genesreunited and there they were. The biggest co-incidence was I went to school with Roger the tree owner.

I dont think we shall do much better than this. Thank you so much for your help Arranroots, and to all who took the trouble to read my post.

I only hope I can contune to help others in the future.

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 July 06 20:58 BST (UK) »
Wow!

Instant tree!!

(just a little disappointed: I was enjoying this one!)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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