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JK
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My Grt Grt Grandmother Sarah Ann Thorpe was born in Henley on Thames in 1856. Her parents were Thomas and Beaufoy.
Thomas born Henley c1827 was a Bargeman and apart from the 1861 census seems to have dodged the enumerators pencil, at least I've not found him. I guess if your barge wasn't in a town on census night you just got missed off?
Anyway I can't find Sarah or her Brother Thomas's birth certificates and have had no luck on finding a marriage certificate for Thomas & Beaufoy. I would have thought with such an odd name she would be easy to find... Well apparently NOT 
Beaufoy it appears did not like being a bargemans wife and is found in all other censii after the 1861 as a sick nurse in various private houses around the country, she gives her place of birth as Henley and date of birth as 1838, 1830, 1835, 1837 and finally in 1901 as 1825. She died in Henley in 1910.
Can anyone work wonders and find her maiden name for me???
Cheers everyone
JK
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGrimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex) Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia Hayward - London (Middlesex) Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex) Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire |
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JK
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It sometimes gets translated as Beanfoy!!!! As I said she should have been an easy one to spot, but she's pretty good at hide 'n' seek 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGrimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex) Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia Hayward - London (Middlesex) Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex) Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire |
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MJP
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Hi JK,
I found the following marriage:
Thomas William Thorp
Beaufoy Whittick
Jun Qtr 1854
Henley Reg District
Vol 3a Page 650
In the 1851 census there is:
HO017/1725/111/16
West Street, Henley
Ann Whittick, Widow, 53, Charwoman, b. Bucks Burham
Louisa Whittick, Daur, 14, b. Henley
Ann Whittick, Daur, 12, Scholar, b. Henley
And in the 1841 census:
HO107/874/4/33/21
M___? Yard, Henley
Ann Whitick, 40, Labourer, born in county
Mary ", 12, bic
George ", 4, bic
Lucy ", 3, bic
Fanny ", 1, bic
Bufoy ", 8, bic (age recorded in the male column)
MJP
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Information given in census transcriptions is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.ukEagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire), Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland) |
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MJP
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As possible candidates for Beaufoy's father/Ann's husband, there are 2 Whittick deaths between the birth of Fanny and the 1841 census:
Samuel Whittick, Mar Qtr 1841, Henley Dist, Vol. 16 Page 56
William Whittick, Mar Qtr 1841, Henley Dist. Vol 16 Page 51
While the IGI is sparse on Oxfordshire records, it does have a Samuel Whittick marrying an Anne Almond in 1829 in Ipsden, Oxfordshire. (Judging by the census records, there are many Whitticks in Ipsden.) This is a possibility.
Looks like you will need to either order Beaufoy's marriage certificate or look at the Henley parish registers yourself. 
What a neat name! 
MJP
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Information given in census transcriptions is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.ukEagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire), Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland) |
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avm228
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In 1851 "Beaufey Wittick" (21, b Henley) was a general servant in Deptford: Ho107/1584 folio 433 p27.
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Samuel Whittick, Mar Qtr 1841, Henley Dist, Vol. 16 Page 56
William Whittick, Mar Qtr 1841, Henley Dist. Vol 16 Page 51
The NBI shows a burial of William Whittick in Oxfordshire in 1841: he was aged 77 and was buried at Holy Trinity, Nuffield, no date given other than 1841. (No sign of Samuel on the NBI)
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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JK
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A big thank you to everyone who helped,
MJP you are an absolute star  . I knew RC's would be able to solve this one for me.
I wonder where such an odd name originates from, It seems to be more common as a surname but still not very normal. As you proved it is one of those names you really don't know if it is male or female, I had certainly never heard of it before my research 
Happy hunting everyone
JK
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colinsorigins
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Hi JK
I don't know how much further you wanted to go with Beaufoy. But here are entries from Henley parish registers.
June 11 1854 at Holy Trinity, Thomas William Thorp, labourer, father Thomas labourer, married Beaufoy Whittick, father dead - witnesses George Whittick and Sarah Soundy.
13 May 1832 at St. Mary baptism of Beaufoy Wrightwick and Elizabeth Wrightwick, parents Samuel and Ann; ages are not given so I assume this were twins but not necessarily so.
Samuel married Ann Greg at St. Mary 10 Nov 1821 where he is Samuel Whittick and both are of this parish.
I hope this is of interest
Colin
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Winterslow: Shears, Sheath, Stainer, Ballard
Wilton: Pressley, Beckett
Downton: Davis
Oxford: Honey
Usk/Caerwent: Thomas
Radnage/Dixton: Howells
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JK
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Colin,
Thanks for that, how very kind of you.
I managed to trace Ann further. She was widowed by the 1841 census but lived on until 1887!! From several census she lived at the Almshouses in Henley, which from what I can gather are very near St Mary's Church.
This is a family I had never really studied much but I have had a new dig since you guys helped me out
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGrimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex) Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia Hayward - London (Middlesex) Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex) Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire |
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Hi Colin,
ages are not given so I assume this were twins but not necessarily so.
Bad assumption
People often had several baptisms done on the same day, although the kids may have been born several years apart.
I have several cases in Dorset where this happens (the dates of birth are also given). Another catch, even for single baptisms, is that the date of bapism can be totally different from the date of birth.
I don't know if it had to do with the cost of baptism (job lots, 'cheaper by the dozen' ??), or whether it was a 'travelling preacher', who only visited the parish at certain times.
Bob
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Hi Jk
Just a couple more bits of information.
It seems that Thomas was born 17 Apr 1819 and baptized 16 May. The parents were Thomas and Elizabeth.
There is a second Thomas born in 1822 but his parents were John and Sarah.
Samuel Whittick was buried 24 Mar 1841 at the age of 42.
I think Bob may be correct on this occassion but we shall never know. Unfortunately we are dealing with a transcript, and we cannot be certain of what was in the original record. A few years previously the transcript also gives the date of birth. We do not know whether the date of birth was no longer included in the parish register or whether the transcriber ceased including the information.
{This is a great frustration with Henley parish registers. LDS has the transcript available on film, but, because OFHS has the transcript for sale, the film is not available in Family History Centres. But what is worse, is that much of the valuable information in the original documents is not freely available because LDS has not filmed the original registers, presumably because this might interfer with sale of transcripts by OFHS. The information given in a transript may be adequate for the purposes of LDS members but it is often only a pointer for people trying research and understand their family tree}
Sorry about the rant at the end, but this arrangement between OFHS and LDS is a great frustation in many of the Oxford parishes.
Best wishes,
Colin
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Winterslow: Shears, Sheath, Stainer, Ballard
Wilton: Pressley, Beckett
Downton: Davis
Oxford: Honey
Usk/Caerwent: Thomas
Radnage/Dixton: Howells
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JK
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Quick update to all those who so kindly helped find information on Beaufoy and her family..... Since I updated my tree on GR with this information I have been contacted by a descendent of Beaufoy's sister Louisa. She too had been having problems tracking down the family and is delighted with the information I have been able to pass on. So thanks to you guys for making not 1 but 2 people very happy
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGrimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex) Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia Hayward - London (Middlesex) Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex) Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire |
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Further update...... The lady who contacted me via GR has access to Henley St Mary's Church records and has done further research based on what you guy's found. I can now report that Beaufoy was named after her mother's sister Beaufoy Greg. In fact the name also lived on as my Beaufoy's sister Elizabeth also named one of her daughters Beaufoy!!!! Furthermore we are now both in contact with another descendant from this sister Elizabeth's marriage!! As I said before Thank-you so much it was your help that started this ball rolling
JK
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGrimshaw - Rawdon, Yorks, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire & London (Middlesex) Grimshaw - Toronto, Canada Grimshaw - Sydney, Australia Hayward - London (Middlesex) Taylor - Windsor, Berkshire Pearce - Leicestershire & London (Middlesex) Kingston - Wexcombe, Wiltshire & Amersham, Buckinghamshire Hewitt - Ingatestone, Essex & City of London Kearns - Portsmouth, Hampshire Grace - Amersham, Buckinghamshire |
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