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steven
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I am looking for the marriage of Ellen TAYLOR to Robert BARKLAY around or after 1861.
They are not marrieed and both are living seperately in Darlington in the 1861 census. Ellen is from Barnard Castle originally and Robert is from Ireland. They started having children early in 1862 and they all had the name BARKLAY. By 1871 they were listed as both being BARKLAY on the census for Darlington.
I cannot find the marriage on Free BMD or Darlingotn registration office records.
Any help is much appreciated as I am running out of ideas.
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Pels.
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Hi Steven,
I am quite worried about myself right now. 
Not only can I not find the marriage for the Barklay's,
I can't find the census results for 1861 and 1871 in
Darlington either?
Is this just me having a 'moment' or has anyone else
looked?
Will you please put me out of my misery and tell me
where they are?
Cheers,
Pels
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steven
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In 1861 Robert was lodging in the Dolphin Inn in the town centre and Ellen was living just outside Aycliffe Village at How Hills. Robert was listed as Bartley, presumably a problem with his accent !
In 1871 they were liviing in Darlington again listed as Bartley and residing in Park Street in the Parish of St Johns.
Any help or ideas for the marriage would be great. Robert I assume was Catholic and I am not sure what implications that might have.
Thanks
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Nutty1966
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Hi
I can't find the marriage either, only ones on the IGI for Robert Barclay are much earlier and not to a Taylor 
Good luck with it, will watch with interest now to see who finds what 
Jane
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LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE, LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD DANBY & WHITBY - JEFFELS LIVERPOOL - GANDER SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON BROUGHTON - HARRISON MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER PINCHINTHORPE - POSTGATE BILSDALE- BOYES Cenusu informations is from crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uK |
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Pels.
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Hi,
Just trying to go through this using all the name
variations:
1841 census, Gainford, Barnard Castle:
Eleanor Taylor, age 1, living with parents James and Margaret
1851 census, Barnard Castle, reg. dist. Teesdale
Ellen Taylor, age 11, living with parents James and Margaret
Ellen Taylor, b. Mar. qtr. 1840 reg. dist.: Teesdale
Deaths:
Darlington Sept. qtr. 1886
Robert Barkley, age 49
Darlington, Jun. qtr. 1889
Ellen Barkley, age 49
To answer your query Jennifer, nothing at all? 
Still looking though and just thinking aloud!!
I see Robert, son, age 8 on 1871 census was born in
Newcastle.
I'll keep looking!
Pels
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Nutty1966
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Hi
I tried a wildcard, nothing
I tried several different spellings Barcley, Bartlie, Bartley, Bearkley
Where are they, driving me mad now and its not mine lol
Good luck
Jane
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LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE, LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD DANBY & WHITBY - JEFFELS LIVERPOOL - GANDER SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON BROUGHTON - HARRISON MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER PINCHINTHORPE - POSTGATE BILSDALE- BOYES Cenusu informations is from crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uK |
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Pels.
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Hello,
If this is Robert Bartley, son of Robert and Ellen (1871 census):
Robert Berkley, b. Mar. qtr. 1862 Newcastle upon Tyne
The names we now have are:
Barklay
Barkley
Bartley
Berkley
Eleanor/Ellen
The only name consistant in all this is Robert!
Pels 
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Nutty1966
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If that is him, he was registered in Newscastle, i wonder if they also married in Newcastle, or ran away to Gretna Green lol,
Or maybe they did'nt marry 
Jane
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LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE, LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD DANBY & WHITBY - JEFFELS LIVERPOOL - GANDER SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON BROUGHTON - HARRISON MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER PINCHINTHORPE - POSTGATE BILSDALE- BOYES Cenusu informations is from crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uK |
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Pels.
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Hi Jane,
Where else have looked? To save me going over old ground!
I've tried North Yorks (Gainford connection)
Durham and Northumberland because of young
Robert's birth?
Just as well the weather isn't good - I should be gardening!
Pels
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Pels.
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Steven is going to check this and think he has hit the jackpot
with all these replies 
How wrong he will be 
Pels
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Nutty1966
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Hi Pels
Are we all going around in circles, haven't even hovered yet , and is raining here in Redcar so no gardening for me lol
Well I have looked on freebmd for Newcastle, Teesdale, Barnard Castle, and then I thought maybe they skipped over the borders and came into Middlesbrough area, nothing I will check middlesbrough indexes once more, On ancestry I have tried every spelling I can think of, and her name is quite easy - Taylor, I can't find any at all, maybe and just a theory her parents didn't approve as he was Irish so maybe they just took off and lived 'tally'.
Will keep looking, makes a change from my brickwalls and being a pain to the postie while i wait for certs
Jane
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LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE, LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD DANBY & WHITBY - JEFFELS LIVERPOOL - GANDER SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON BROUGHTON - HARRISON MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER PINCHINTHORPE - POSTGATE BILSDALE- BOYES Cenusu informations is from crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uK |
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Nutty1966
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Hi
Just had another thought, I had a look on the genes site and it may be worth your while having a look as there are a few, some born in Ireland and some in Co. Durham may have a connection 
Jane
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LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE, LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD DANBY & WHITBY - JEFFELS LIVERPOOL - GANDER SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON BROUGHTON - HARRISON MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER PINCHINTHORPE - POSTGATE BILSDALE- BOYES Cenusu informations is from crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uK |
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Pels.
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There is always one who has to ask the obvious silly
question, so here goes:
Steven - How do you know we should be looking for
Robert Barklay?
There appears to be so many variations of his name
throughout the years, do you have a certificate which
states this is how to spell it?
I feel ashamed to query this - but nothing lost, nothing
gained 
Pels
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Pinetree
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Are you sure all of the children belong to Robert and Ellen together.
On 1881 there is a bit of a gap between Margaret age 12 and Elizabeth age 7.
Is there a chance either (or both) of them could have been married before (between 1861 and 1871) which could impact on the date (and in Ellen's case surname) for the Robert/Ellen marriage.
I can't access the 1871 details which may show other children in the gap, so this may be utter nonsense but just a thought.
Pinetree
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