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Forfarian
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Address: Bolnapiats, Inveraron, Banff
This is in the parish of Inveravon not Inveraron.
It's marked as Bolnapiat on the modern 1:25,000 map but almost certainly abandoned and ruinous. The National Grid reference is NJ224327. You can see where it is by going to http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/271103 and then clicking on OS Get-a-Map at the bottom of the page. It's not the cottage in the picture, but it probably is or was very similar.
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MonicaLesl
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Forfarian, as always you are brilliant on place names and you are absolutely right on it being Inveravon. I obviously had Inveraron stuck in my head this morning and wrote it up that way on each instance when I was typing up 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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gorander50
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Thanks for the help. Maybe that's the family. All I have is a family tree on canvas that dates back to Helen McPherson Grant which indicates she's a single child. No info on birthdate, just parent's names. She married Charles Nicol in 1862 and they have the Ballandolloch PO as their address. How do I find birth, marriage and death certificates?
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MonicaLesl
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Have a look through this help guide here on RC on what is available in respect of Scottish research resources: www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
You will find the original image on line of Helen and Charles' marriage on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It is pay to view but costs are reasonable. You can save any image that you view on to your computer.
The marriage year shows as you have, from IGI at www.familysearch.org:
HELEN MCPHERSON GRANT and CHARLES NICOL
Marriage: 14 JUL 1862 in Inveravon, Banff
You should be able to view this entry on Scotlands People with these dates.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Certainly looks like Charles and Helen left Scotland immediately after their marriage going by the births places of their early children. The family in 1871 at Woodhouse, Norfolk South, Ontario - all the children showing as born in Ontario:
Charles Nicol 36 b. Scotland
Helen Nicol 35 b. Scotland
Margret Nicol 7
Marey H Nicol 6
Eliza J Nicol 5
Erie E Nicol 3
From 1891 in St Albans Ward, York West, Ontario
Charles Nicol 57 b. Scotland
Helen Nicol 55 b. Scotland
Maggie Nicol 28, P. School teacher
Lizzie Nicol 25
Erie Nicol 22
Mina Nicol 18, P. School teacher
Bella Nicol 16
Emily Nicol 15
Georgie Nicol 12
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Some of the childrens' birth entries in Ontario which coincide with the start of official registration in Canada:
Martha Elsie Nicolson Nicol - 20 Sep 1869
Williamina Craigie Nicol - 30 Nov 1872
Isabella Elsie Nicol - 17 Sep 1874
Emily Naomi Nicol - 31 Jan 1876
Georgie Larisa Nicol -19 Aug 1878
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Helen Grant/Nicols died in York, a widow by now,on 27 Mar 1921 at the age of 85, the informant was one of her daughters. Her birth place shows as Banff and parents given as Robert Grant and Margaret Smith. Charles Nicol died also in York on 1 Oct 1898, aged 64.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Forfarian
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Thanks for the help. Maybe that's the family. All I have is a family tree on canvas that dates back to Helen McPherson Grant which indicates she's a single child. No info on birthdate, just parent's names. She married Charles Nicol in 1862 and they have the Ballandolloch PO as their address. How do I find birth, marriage and death certificates?
You won't find a birth certificate because no such thing existed before 1855. There might have been a baptism record, but if there isn't one listed at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk the chances are that it has not survived. It isn't listed on http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp which means that it's not in the Inveravon Roman Catholic registers either.
There will be a marriage certificate available at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost. The marriage certificate should tell you the names of both her parents, and her father's occupation may be listed.
If the Inveravon Kirk Session minutes have survived, there might possibly be some information there about Helen's parentage, provided that one of her parents was a member of the Church of Scotland congregation. The minutes would be in the National Archives of Scotland www.nas.gov.uk but you would need to get someone to check on your behalf. The NAS site has links to lists of Edinburgh-based researchers who do this sort of thing.
Ballindalloch Castle is the seat of the Macpherson-Grant family, descendants of the original lairds who built the castle. The double-barrelled name dates from 1806, when George Macpherson succeeded his great-uncle General James Grant, and took both names. It would not surprise me if Helen Grant acquired her middle name some time after her baptism; this isn't at all unusual. Quite a few Grant children from that area were given the middle name Macpherson as a mark of respect to the laird's family.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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MonicaLesl
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The only entry I could find on IGI was this one, actual extract from the Old Parish Registers:
JANE GRANT OR SMITH Birth: 16 APR 1836/ Christening: 07 MAY 1836 in Inveravon, Banff
Parents: ROBERT GRANT and MARGARET SMITH
The way the entry is written up again implies an illegitimate birth.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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