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HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« on: Sunday 31 October 04 00:01 BST (UK) »
HI. I HAVE DECIDED IT WAS TIME I SERIOUSLY STARTED TO RESEARCH MY FAMILY TREE. AFTER A LONG CHAT WITH MY NAN I HAVE COME UP WITH A FEW DETAILS.
MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS WERE CHARLES AND CHARLOTTE HARVEY AND THEY LIVED WITH THEIR CHILDREN IN EMMA STREET BETHNAL GREEN EAST LONDON
IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANY INFO THEY THINK MAY BE USEFUL CAN YOU LET ME KNOW
THANKS
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Sheldrake        Williams
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Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 November 04 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Have checked the address for 1861 and they were not in Emma St then - do you have a year when you think they could have been there?   Or any ages would help,
Cheers Cougar
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 November 04 23:18 GMT (UK) »
HI COUGAR. 
NOT TO SURE OF EXACT DATES BUT THEY MUST HAVE BEEN THERE IN AT LEAST 1900 AS MY GRANDAD WAS BORN IN 1909 AND HE WAS NUMBER 11 OF 13 AND ALL THE OTHER KIDS WERE BORN IN THE SAME HOUSE.
THANKS FOR THE HELP
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Harvey             Brown
Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 November 04 00:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi
This is the only Charles & Charlotte Harvey in Middlesex census for 1881 - do any of the childrens names ring a bell?

Name Charles HARVEY Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 61 Occupation General Labourer Birthplace Enfield, Middlesex, England Address New Lane 2 Cecelia Cottages, Enfield, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/1393 Folio 57 Page 39 FHL film no. 1341339


2. Name Charlotte HARVEY Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 57 Occupation – Birthplace Whitwell, Hertford, England Address New Lane 2 Cecelia Cottages, Enfield, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/1393 Folio 57 Page 39 FHL film no. 1341339


3. Name Alfred W. HARVEY Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 27 Occupation Excavator Birthplace Enfield, Middlesex, England Address New Lane 2 Cecelia Cottages, Enfield, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/1393 Folio 57 Page 39 FHL film no. 1341339


4. Name James HARVEY Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 23 Occupation General Labourer Birthplace Enfield, Middlesex, England Address New Lane 2 Cecelia Cottages, Enfield, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/1393 Folio 57 Page 39 FHL film no. 1341339


5. Name William HARVEY Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 19 Occupation Bricklayers Labourer Birthplace Enfield, Middlesex, England Address New Lane 2 Cecelia Cottages, Enfield, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/1393 Folio 57 Page 39 FHL film no. 1341339


6. Name Arthur HARVEY Relationship Son Condition – Gender M Age 12 Occupation Scholar Birthplace Enfield, Middlesex, England Address New Lane 2 Cecelia Cottages, Enfield, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/1393 Folio 57 Page 39 FHL film no. 1341339
 
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 November 04 00:25 GMT (UK) »
HI AGAIN. APART FROM CHARLES AND CHARLOTTE UNFORTUNATELY NONE OF THOSE NAMES RING BELLS. I KNOW 12 OF THE 13 KIDS NAMES, NOT SURE WHAT THE OTHER ONE WAS CALLED AT THE MOMENT BUT FROM WHAT I CAN MAKE OUT THERE WASN'T MUCH OF AN AGE GAP BETWEEN ANY OF THEM SO I WOULD EXPECT THE ELDEST TO HAVE BEEN BORN IN APPROX 1895.
THANKS AGAIN
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Harvey             Brown
Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 November 04 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Just realised a huge mistake on my part. got my dates muddled. my grandad was born in 1916 not 1909. so i think that my great grandparents probably moved into emma street about 1900.
Sorry about that.
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Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 November 04 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - you have now got out of my area, my refs are all around the 1800's.
Can you send the names of the other children?  Might be able to track them down that way
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 November 04 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cougar
The 12 names that i know for the children are Charles, Charlotte, Ada, Eliza, Sydney, George, Adelaide, Alice, Henry (my grandad), Stanley and Rose. There was also an older brother Leonard, but his surname was Sheldrake.
Thanks for all the help
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Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 November 04 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Oh boy what an interesting family
Cannot find any of the children on the 1881 census anywhere.
Tried looking for Leonard Sheldrake - not there -tried Charlotte Sheldrake - no joy there either.
Would have thought that there could have been at least one of them born by then - but obviously not.
To get the births you might have to try 1837.online - it is a pay per view but not expensive.
Sorry I couldn't help.
Cheers Cougar
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 07 November 04 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cougar.
Will try 1837. Thanks for trying. I will let you know how I get on
Thanks again
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Harvey             Brown
Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 November 04 00:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
Managed to find my great grandad and his parents on the 1901 census. Great grandad was not as old as I thought. Only 16 when the 1901 census was taken. Hit another wall now, looking for my great great grandad, Manning Harvey. All i know about him is he was born about 1844 and he was a Jew that married outside the religion. I also think he may have changed his surname to Harvey as there seems to be no record of him on the 1851 census for Bethnal Green where he was born.
Will let you know if I eventually find anything
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Harvey             Brown
Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 November 04 01:08 GMT (UK) »
Could be this one?
Name Manning HARVEY Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 28 Occupation Brush Maker Birthplace Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Address 10 Holms St, London, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/0407 Folio 18 Page 29 FHL film no. 1341088


2. Name Eliza HARVEY Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 27 Occupation Brush Drawer Birthplace Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Address 10 Holms St, London, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/0407 Folio 18 Page 29 FHL film no. 1341088


3. Name John HARVEY Relationship Son Condition – Gender M Age 9 m Occupation – Birthplace Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Address 10 Holms St, London, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/0407 Folio 18 Page 29 FHL film no. 1341088


4. Name Eliza HARVEY Relationship Daur Condition – Gender F Age 7 Occupation Scholar Birthplace Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Address 10 Holms St, London, Middlesex, England PRO ref RG11/0407 Folio 18 Page 29 FHL film no. 1341088

There are only 3 listed, one was aged 60 and the other 13
Cheers Cougar
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Re: HARVEY - BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 November 04 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Don't think this is the right Manning Harvey. The one on the 1901 census says he was born in bethnal green. Quite uncanny though. My Manning's wife is also called Eliza. His kids were called Charles, Albert, Grace, George and Adelaide.
I'll keep looking though. He is bound to show up somewhere eventually.
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I am looking for info on the following names
Harvey             Brown
Jenkins             Head
Sheldrake        Williams
Moulding
all from the East End of London

Also any information about a Dutch subject Albert Merles who appears on the 1901 census
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