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Minister - Amey. c1824
« on: Thursday 03 August 06 01:03 BST (UK) »

Edward Minister married Elizabeth Amey on 6 Nov 1824 at All Saints Church, Cambridge. On the church register the name was recorded as Hamey but where the signatures are it is Amey.
I have a copy of the 1841 Cencus showing the Minister's living at St Andrew the Less - I also have a copy of the 1841 Cencus showing Amey's living at St Andrew the Less.
Can anyone please help how I can connect Elizabeth Amey to her parents?
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Re: Minister - Amey. c1824
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 August 06 14:37 BST (UK) »

Unless you can find Elizabeth's baptism it is pure speculation that the Ameys in St Andrew the Less are connected.

In 1841 Elizabeth's age was given as 45, meaning it was between 45 and 49 as ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below, and she was said to be born in Cambs.

I can't see her in 1851 but there is a death of an Elizabeth Minister in the March quarter 1843 in Cambridge registration district which is possibly her. Do you have a death certificate? The Camdex site on http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/riddeaths.nsf/search?OpenForm
gives the age as 49 so it might be the same Elizabeth, in which case her birth would be c1794

I can see 2 Ameys in St Andrew the Less in 1841: 80 year old Mary in the workhouse, and 45 year old James, both born in Cambs. The Camdex site shows an 83 year old Mary Amey dying in 1843.

There's a baptism of an Elizabeth Amy in Little Gransden Cambs on 24 Oct 1793, daughter of Robert & Mary Amy (per the IGI on www.familysearch.org, which entry is extracted from the parish register so is reliable). This couple also baptised Nancy on the same day as Elizabeth; Mary on 10 July 1796 and Sarah on 25 April 1797. This Elizabeth would fit very nicely with the 49 year who died in the first quarter 1843.

I wondered if James could have been Elizabeth's brother, but I cannot find a baptism for him. But Cambs is far from complete on the IGI so he may be from a parish that is not covered, and of course he might not be connected to Elizabeth at all. I can't see him in any subsequent census either.

A Robert Amey age 76 was buried at St Andrew the Less on 9 March 1836.

As the 1824 marriage gives Elizabeth's parish of residence as St Andrew the Less that's no help in linking her to the Lt Gransden baptism. Have you checked the full entry in the parish register to get the names of the witnesses? You need all the clues you can lay your hands on.

You also need to check the Lt Gransden parish register to see if there is any additional detail for the four baptisms. Likewise for the burial of Robert at St Andrew the Less in 1836.

On the face of it, it seems possible that Robert and Mary could have been the parents of Elizabeth, but it will take a lot of work to prove it. A bit of lateral work on the other daughters baptised in Lt Gransden might add some more circumstantial evidence.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Minister - Amey. c1824
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 August 06 10:24 BST (UK) »

Hi David,

Thanks for your interest and helpful suggestions. I have a copy of Elizabeths & Edwards marriage registration, I previously had her birth year as 1796, I have the details of their five children, the youngest b. 1833 at George St., St Andrew the Less.

Like you I'm inclined to accept that the Elizabeth who died in the first quarter 1843, is the one I'm interested in.

Once again many thanks for your help.

Steve
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Re: Minister - Amey. c1824
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 15:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi
I am researching my family name which is Hamey and I am looking for a James Hamey born about 1800 somewhere in Northamptonshire/cambridgeshire/Huntingdonshire.
I know that the name is sometimes recorded as Amey but I have also seen the marriage of Edward and Elizabeth with her name recorded as Hamey. Any help would be welcome as I have got stuck at James Hameys marriage to Francis Grooby in Ufford near Ashton (near Stamford) in 1829.
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Re: Minister - Amey. c1824
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 18:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi Deborah, and welcome to Rootschat

Does the 1829 marriage entry give any clues eg parishes of residence, or witnesses? Unfortunately James appears to have died before 1841, so censuses are no help, other than Frances was born c1809 if her census ages are to be believed.

Have you found his death/burial, from which you might get a more precise indication of when he was born?

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Minister - Amey. c1824
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 November 07 17:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi David
there is no record of his birth or death only the marriage but I do know that the Hameys did live in Oundle, Thrapston and surrounding areas about the same time but I cannot link him to any of the Hamey's at that time unless he was a bigamist!!!!
Deborah
P.S I am working in Northamton and I am in the Records Office now!
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