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RedFox
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wodell, do you know where this is, is it a museum? I plan to go back to Aspatria area in 2008 and will have a car again. Or do I need to be in the Durham area. I also had ancestors who were miners there and in Yorkshire. Some in Aspatria were miners, but some were farmers.
I have learned this year that Mr. Lawson was a major mine owner. So he was not only a MP, but at one time he was knighted and became a Sir. There may be a statue of him in Carlisle, but I'm not sure, The Lawson family and their servants lived at Brayton Hall and Brayton farm. I've found them on several census records. RedFox
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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn, Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL: Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK: Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC: Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX: Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA: MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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wodell
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:Dhi, there isnt a museum at aspatria, just some old mine ruins, i do recall a seeing some photos of the miners somewhere, i,ll try to remember where at,
the mining museum is on line its quite interesting if you have mining connections, but if you need to know any local geography i worked in the villages surrounding aspatria,
due to work i am only on line at weekends(i wish it could be more),
the lawsons were quite a powerful family at one time, there still is a lawson street in the town,
i know how genealogy can be a pain but our local dialect will make it worse,we call aspatria, speeyatree,dunno why.
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starkie,cockermouth.kennely,cockermouth.potts,cockermouth.fulton,workington.ellwood,cumberland.kneen/neen/kaneen,iom & cockermouth & durham.coghlan,cork..nichol,cumberland murphy, ireland-workington, armstrong,workington. williamson,harrington.fraser,newcastle-harrington, hill,ireland-maryport. foster, worcester-west cumberland.
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wodell
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:Dhi, its me back again, the site is www.dmm.org.uk.
it lists all shafts sunk dates productivity, and a number of employees names and addresses, as well as a photo of the pit, and links to sites where you will find details of the owners, hope it helps, wodell
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starkie,cockermouth.kennely,cockermouth.potts,cockermouth.fulton,workington.ellwood,cumberland.kneen/neen/kaneen,iom & cockermouth & durham.coghlan,cork..nichol,cumberland murphy, ireland-workington, armstrong,workington. williamson,harrington.fraser,newcastle-harrington, hill,ireland-maryport. foster, worcester-west cumberland.
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RedFox
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Thanks for the website, wodell. The only Cumberland mine I found was in Workington. There was one man killed in that flood incident, but not sure if he fits in my family tree or not.
The street you said is Lawson I figure used to be called Newtown in the census and parish records. I was going through some research a relative did in 1992 when his family went over to visit Aspatria. That was what the man who lived on that street told them. I was also on that street in 2005 - I didn't know it was called that. The man working in his garage there said the houses across the way were probably built about 1840. I had to wonder if my ancestor hadnn't lived there.
The women I met in Carlisle told me then to pronounce Aspatria - speetree - like you did. One of the women said that is how the train conducter pronounced it.
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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn, Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL: Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK: Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC: Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX: Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA: MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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kena
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Hi Wodell, Thanks for that.
Anna
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Mullon, Fowell, Thornely, Wilding, Lowndes,Gallimore - Cheshire
Routledge, Bell, Gillesby, Armstrong, Forster, Ewart, Nixon, Kennedy,Reay,Wright,Nattrass,Little,Richardson - Cumberland
Winsborough, Hannabus, Copp, Salter, Bray, Williams, Bonney, Creedy, Matthews, Kelner - Devon
Minto, - Durham
Allaker, Fitch,Groom,Queary - Essex
Steeple, Moult, Woodcock - Lancashire
Trafford, Hambleton, Cordon, Sweetman, Goldstraw, Brough, Barton, Dawson, Sutton, Stevenson - Staffordshire
Huess - Somerset
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RedFox
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That DMM site is very interesting even though it only has Workington pits on it. I did see a Graham. Also saw some who might have been my ancestors, both Wilkinson. Two had last names I recognized from people I've chatted with on the Cumberland list - Sandwith and Oglanby.
It's a site worth looking at for several counties, mostly around Durham - Yorkshire, Northumberland, etc. But also other areas. RedFox
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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn, Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL: Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK: Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC: Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX: Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA: MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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LizzieW
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My g.g.grandfather lived in Dalton, Ulverstone and was an iron ore miner in 1861. Anyone know anything about that?
Liz
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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LizzieW
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Just had a look on google and found a site all about Iron Ore Mining in the Dalton area. Apparently it was the principal mining town of Furness. There are also some reports of deaths down the mines. One is of a man with the same surname as my g.g.grandfather although as the death was in 1828 and my g.g.grandfather wasn't born until 1835 it obviously wasn't his father. It is a common surname in the town, but might have been some relative.
Liz
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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RedFox
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Thanks, Geoff. I also answered you on the Cumberland list. I was distracted. I didn't look past the first page and paid no attention to the column on the left-hand side. I had been on this website several years ago, so I should have known better. As I said on the C. list, I was distracted. RedFox
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CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn, Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL: Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK: Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC: Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX: Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA: MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz
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wodell
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;Dgosh how lucky am i , the householder behind me, woke up an his garden had gone, thats cos we live over one of them west cumbria mine shafts, its been there since before the formation of the ncb and before the owners were made to keep records,the village rests on pillars of coal a bit like cleator moor does on iron ore,
i think digging through records is safer than coal,?
but i am off work for a few days, and i have the workington 1700, 1901 cdrom if any one needs any info, wodell 
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starkie,cockermouth.kennely,cockermouth.potts,cockermouth.fulton,workington.ellwood,cumberland.kneen/neen/kaneen,iom & cockermouth & durham.coghlan,cork..nichol,cumberland murphy, ireland-workington, armstrong,workington. williamson,harrington.fraser,newcastle-harrington, hill,ireland-maryport. foster, worcester-west cumberland.
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